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To: topher
If you believe in a Trinitarian God (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit), then you also know that all things are the Father's Will...

Your counterparts in Saudi Arabia believe that 9/11 was Allah's Will.

God may eventually judge us on the character with which we handle tragedies, but I suspect he has better things to do than roll hurricanes like bowling balls at clergymen who dared to express contrary opinions. Your posts are no less offensive than an Al Qaeda member coming here and saying Punta Gorda got what it deserved because Bush opposes the will of Allah.

1,972 posted on 08/13/2004 5:18:13 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Mr. Jeeves
God may eventually judge us on the character with which we handle tragedies, but I suspect he has better things to do than roll hurricanes like bowling balls at clergymen who dared to express contrary opinions. Your posts are no less offensive than an Al Qaeda member coming here and saying Punta Gorda got what it deserved because Bush opposes the will of Allah.

You have to understand what the Father's Will is. It is not something simple.

For example, this thing could have hit the Tampa area head on, which would have been much worse.

In the earthquake in the early 1990's in Northridge, which I visited shortly after it hit, I was later told that it put the pornography business out of business for a period of time because of all buildings needed to keep pornography going were badly damaged to duplicate film.

I don't know if that is true or not, but how do you explain the Titanic.

It was the owners who said God Himself could not sink it.

We are a nation that kills 1.3 million unborn babies a year.

There will be some abortion clinics in Tampa and Orlando that will be forced to be closed on their busy day -- Saturday -- tomorrow.

The Father's Willis too complicated to address in a simple chat.

In the first public miracle that Jesus performed, He told His mother: "My time has not yet come."

His mother did not say "please do this."

She just said: "Do whatever He commands you" to the servants at the Wedding Feast at Cana.

Jesus could have chosen to do nothing.

And clearly, if you do believe in the Christian beliefs, Jesus was saying that "His time had not come" was the Father's Will.

But that the Will of the Father was changed.

It is like trying to explain why Israel has been able to survive many vicious attacks by the Arabs and even the initial war back in the 1940's.

On the first anniversary of Mother Teresa of Calcutta's death, she clearly intervened in Baton Rouge, Louisiana in an extra-ordinary way.

What happened that day at Delta Women's Clinic lead to a Major Lawsuit, a state Law in Louisiana that Abortion Clinics must have health inspections (which Planned Parenthood and NARAL blocked in the courts as long as they could).

The final event that was an answer to these prayers happened on the anniversary of Roe vs Wade, when the mother of the woman involved in an abortion that could not be completed and the unborn baby's heart still beating is something you may not be ready for.

Jesus said: "Do not give what is Holy to dogs [the unworthy]".

This story was sent as an indication that the intercession of Mother Teresa was real in this case, and was part of the process of the 2nd stage of her becoming a Saint.

She had a miracle in India that was used for the beatification of Mother Teresa, so this was just a small part. (That miracle defies what medicine would say about how a hernia might be cured overnight without any medical procedure.

2,013 posted on 08/13/2004 5:43:48 PM PDT by topher
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To: Mr. Jeeves; topher; P-Marlowe

There are those who think God scripted everything to include my writing of these words on this page. (The Script Writer)

There are those who think God has blind spots and many things He deals with after the fact. (The Reacter)

There are those who think He knows everything and, therefore, has no blind spots, but is not culpable because "knowing" is not the same as "causing." (The Aware)

There are those who have no God at all (The Empty Universe), or a host of them (The Variety Pack.)

In any case, you takes your picks and you gets the God you chooses.


2,028 posted on 08/13/2004 5:49:44 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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