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To: pookie18
I used to respect Chris Matthews as a journalist, but not anymore. His conduct on Hardball this evening interviewing John O'Neill was reprehensible. The short version of the show is that Hurley kept saying, "lies, lies, it's all lies", Matthews kept saying, "politics, politics, it's all politics", and O'Neill kept saying, "facts, facts, it's all facts". But every time O'Neill tried to outline the facts, Matthews either interrupted him or tried to divert the conversation away from facts and toward motivation.

It's no wonder MSNBC has ratings trouble. I only watched this tonight because O'Neill was on, and won't be watching Hardball again any time soon. Chris Matthews' behavior tonight has also convinced me that I need to buy a copy of O'Neill's book and read it for myself.

170 posted on 08/12/2004 5:15:04 PM PDT by tentmaker
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To: tentmaker
The short version of the show is that Hurley kept saying, "lies, lies, it's all lies", Matthews kept saying, "politics, politics, it's all politics", and O'Neill kept saying, "facts, facts, it's all facts".

Very well said. That does sum it up.

202 posted on 08/12/2004 5:28:52 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: tentmaker
actually, if I may, it was more like:

Hurley: "lies, lies, it's all lies, lies, lies. darn lies. lies. lies, lies."

Matthews: "politics, politics, it's all politics, you're a Republican. Kerry. Kerry. Kerry. kiss. kiss. kiss. Kerry! Kerry! Politics. Republican! Politics. Lies"

Matthews: "So what do you say to that!"

O'Neill "fac..."

Matthews: "So there's nothing to this? you guys are lying! and you're a Republican! and you're lying! Lies! Lies! Politics! Am I right?"

Hurley: "You're darn right! dispicable lies, outrageous the most unbelievable lies, it's all lies, lies, lies. darn lies. lies. lies, lies. and you should ask him abot his partner - did you know he was a racist?"

Matthews: "So it's a toss-up, everything here. Why is it you wouldn't talk to anybody on his boat?"

O'Neill: "well, Chris, I tried, but as soon they admitted to our investigators that Kerry's Cambodia stories were a lie then his handlers wouldn't let them talk to us anymore".

Matthews: "We'll get back to this in a minute!"

Commercial

Matthews: "We're back now. Kerry's war history. Look at these awards he's won. He's a hero. he's brave. if I wasn't a practicing biannual catholic I'd think he was the second coming. and these guys, these purported liars, led by this man John O'Neill are challenging that incredible record. What do you think of that!"

Hurley: "lies, lies, it's all lies, lies, lies. darn lies. lies. lies, lies. and don't forget to ask him about his partner that's a racist!"

Matthews: "So what about this bronze medal. Look at this, Kerry's boat blew up and he saved this guy and there were bullets flying everwhere and Kerry was heroic and you've been here for 20 minutes now and you haven't been able to say a thing that can refute it!"

O'Neill: "I'd love to speak Chris but you haven't given me any time here yet"

Matthews: "Why that's an outrageous lie! you can't say that! I'll check the times later and can tell you that you've had more than enough time to make your case here! That's a particularly conservative kind of tactic to try and make an outrageous claim like that. You know it, that's a Republican trick, I'm not falling for it here. What do you think about that?"

Hurley: "exactly, Chris! he never even served on the same boat as the honorable award winning hero John Kerry. he's backed by Republican money! loads of it! besides it's lies, lies, it's all lies, lies, lies. darn lies. lies. lies, lies. and don't forget to ask him about his partner that's a racist!"

Matthews: "That's all true, isn't it? you can't refute any of these things, can you?"

O'Neill: "well I'd love to try Chris, for example on that first purple heart-"

Matthews: "but you haven't talked to any of the people that were on his boat, did you? nobody who has ever served with John Kerry has ever had anything but the most glowing things to say about him, did they? We'll be right back to this after a commercial"

227 posted on 08/12/2004 5:42:47 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: tentmaker
I can't watch shows like his, my blood pressure rises too much. But it sure is fun to read this and the CNN/Carville threads about these shows.
263 posted on 08/12/2004 8:46:10 PM PDT by MarkeyD (<a href="http:\\www.michaelmoore.com>Maggot</a>)
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