Posted on 08/01/2004 6:12:09 AM PDT by thegreatbeast
PORTLAND, Ore. – As a lay liturgical minister and a cantor, Wilma Hens was a leader at for years at her Roman Catholic parish in the central Oregon city of Bend.
But then Bishop Robert F. Vasa issued a two-page "affirmation of faith." It tells lay ministers and cantors that, if they want to continue in their roles on the altar, they must accept the church's teachings opposing abortion, contraception, gay relationships and other issues.
Hens couldn't agree, so she quit, publicly. She stood at a microphone at St. Francis of Assisi Church last month and told the congregation she was stepping down because she could not accept the bishop's requirement.
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Once again, did you report this "leader" to the Bishop?
Sadly, she cannot be Catholic if she cannot give her full consent to the teachings of the church. Let her find salvation somehow else, perhaps in one of the 25,000 Protestant churches in the world?
"If he is going to exclude anyone who has any doubt about a church teaching, he's going to exclude 100 percent of the membership of the church, including himself. He has to be a human being, the same as me, and I have doubts about some of the church teachings," Dolezal said.
I think he is in for surprise, for beyond his limited circle of experience, there are many who are faithful to the teachings of the Church. Doubt is one thing; posing as an authority greater than that of the Pope and bishops is quite another. The rest of the faithful hope Mr. Dolezai will be prevented from misleading others into the same errors in which he finds himself...and that he may find his way back to the complete truth.
I find this hard to believe.
Sorry but I find that very hard to believe.
The affirmation singled out issues that many American Catholics have struggled with, such as the sinfulness of contraception and "the church's teaching that any extramarital sexual relationships are gravely evil and that these include premarital relations, masturbation, fornication, the viewing of pornography and homosexual relations."I don't know. I think respect for human life from conception til natural death is a "bedrock article of the faith." I don't think these items as a group rank with that. In fact, I think asserting that masturbation is a weighty a matter as abortion really trivializes the teachings of the Church.
Doesn't make them "good" Catholics though, right?
In some quarters, the two terms are NOT synonymns!
Yeah, buy how many public pronouncements claiming the church is wrong and they are going to ignore its teachings? Those that do can't be considered good Catholics.
For which there is confession and the opportunity to sin no more.
What in the world do you call a "good Catholic"?
I see that.
What happened is what happened, I have no interest in fighting about it.
Sorry if I offended anyone.
Too bad you have no understanding what is meant by "a State of Grace".
It means any mortal sins have been confessed and forgiven.
Polycarp,
See how long these threads last in the news section when you don't post.
I love your posts, and am on your ping list.
Just emphasising an earlier point that I believe the fact that your posts are bannished to the religion forum are truly personal.
I found it hard to believe that priests were sexually assaulting boys and bishops were covering it up.
Pray for W and Our Troops
If you're not willing to hold yourself to a higher standard maybe you should just sleep in on sunday.
I am not for abortion , I am for contraception. Although in the case of rape or incest I could endorse abortion if it were done in the first tri-mester.
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