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O'Reilly vs. Ex-Mayor "Willie"
7/21/2004 | dad4america

Posted on 07/21/2004 8:41:24 PM PDT by dad4america

Not sure how many are tuned into the Bill O'Reilly interview with Ex-Mayor Willie Brown. I've already posted earlier today about my problems with SF, that is being a business owner and struggling to do business in SF.

But, can you believe how Mr. Brown differentiates between the Clinton and Bush government? He says that the Bush administration has "failed on entitlements". Yet, O'Reilly indicates that overall spending towards education has doubled since the Clinton administration.

I want to know from FR if Mr. Brown is considered a legitimate spokesperson for the Afro-American community. Because, what he is basically saying is that he defines a successful administration as one that is essentially based on handouts. This from a man who is questionable at best in his handling of city funds and who made SF the homeless capital of the US.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: sf; williebrown
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1 posted on 07/21/2004 8:41:24 PM PDT by dad4america
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Let's see Jimmie Brown, I mean Willie Carter..oh never mind.


2 posted on 07/21/2004 8:43:49 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (Kerry Lied)
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I saw the interview and basically Brown said give us(Black People) more money.


3 posted on 07/21/2004 8:46:22 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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Mr. Brown is a legitimate spokesman for $3,000 Brioni suits, hand-made shoes, and the fedora industry (and all on a meager politician's salary. Hmmm....) His life is about as far outside the "black entitlement culture" as Michael Jordan's. For him to even open his mouth on the subject is laughable.

Oh and even though he is over 70, he prefers white girlfriends under 30 - a new one every few weeks, last I saw. Wonder how that goes down among black female voters?

4 posted on 07/21/2004 8:51:47 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: dad4america

In a word - Treasure Island.


5 posted on 07/21/2004 8:53:11 PM PDT by Bobibutu
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Willie Brown is a crook who should be in jail.

O'Blowhard treated ole Willie like an old drinking buddy, instead of the corrupt SOB that he is.


Loved Willie trying to say the the use of the term 'illegal alien" was inflammatory.

No spin zone indeed.

Doing business in San Francisco? You deserves one of John Kerry's medals. Did you know he served in Vietnam?


6 posted on 07/21/2004 8:53:54 PM PDT by exit82 (Righteousness exalts a nation......Prov. 14:34)
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Legitimate spokeman?...I haven't a clue..powerful democrat,yes.
I was amused by the questioning because it was clear that there no excuse for beratiing the Bush administration over his"issues" yet his stunning claim of greater"hope" under Clinton as the excuse to back dems had me laughing...Willy would not worry about handouts being a legitimate goal..He is a politician...


7 posted on 07/21/2004 8:56:49 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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I saw the interview. Oreilly made willie b look like an idiot. Of course, that is easy to do these days. However, willie b was quite a politician when he was speaker here in ca. He was damn good at getting his way, much to the dismay of repubs.

I disagree with BO on a lot of things, but he is till my favorite on Fox. He is pugnacious and ballsy most of the time. Sometimes he throws soffballs....I guess everyone needs a rest from time to time.


8 posted on 07/21/2004 8:57:12 PM PDT by fizziwig
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Amen, brother! Gathering those stats sounds like the perfect mission statement for SF-based (e.g. city funded) non-profit. Hmmm. Maybe I should convert our SF-based technology company? Thanks for your response.


9 posted on 07/21/2004 8:57:37 PM PDT by dad4america
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I saw that tonight, and it had me again shaking my head at how any Republican can look at their party and believe they are a fiscally conservative. Both sides continue to push spending increase after spending increase and now the argument has gone away from cuts to how much growth.

The two are quickly melting into the same party from a financial standpoint and only differ in social areas and who gets control of the purse strings.

Time for a change, IMO.

10 posted on 07/21/2004 8:59:05 PM PDT by pdjplano
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Brown was complaining about "delivery of programs", I see this as code for welfare and freebies are too hard to get.

They want "delivery" as a means of saying THEY are not controlling the great society programs.

IOW democrat party means more free stuff.


11 posted on 07/21/2004 8:59:55 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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At about the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution, in
the year 1787, Alexander Tyler (a Scottish history professor at The
University of Edinborough) had this to say about "The Fall of The Athenian
Republic" some 2,000 years prior: "A democracy is always temporary in
nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A
democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that
they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that
moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most
benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will
finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a
dictatorship."



"The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of
history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations
always progressed through the following sequence:

From Bondage to spiritual faith

From spiritual faith to great courage;

From courage to liberty;

From liberty to abundance;

From abundance to complacency;

From complacency to apathy;

From apathy to dependence;

From dependence back into bondage."



Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul,
Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the most recent
Presidential election:



Population of counties won by:

Gore = 127 million

Bush = 143 million



Square miles of land won by:

Gore = 580,000

Bush = 2,2427,000



States won by:

Gore = 19

Bush = 29



Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:

Gore = 13.2

Bush = 2.1



Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was
mostly the land owned by the tax-paying citizens of this great country.
Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in
government-owned tenements and living off government welfare..."



Olson believes the U.S. is now somewhere between the "complacency and
"apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy; with some 40
percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental
dependency" phase.


12 posted on 07/21/2004 9:04:02 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (Kerry Lied)
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To: dad4america
what he is basically saying is that he defines a successful administration as one that is essentially based on handouts

You nailed it.

I hope if there are any black conservatives out there that they call Bill and ask to be on the show with some facts to back up the truth and out the lies of Mr. Brown.

For example, IIRC, according the National Home Builders Association (thanks to Bush's tax breaks) a record number of minorities (mainly blacks) have become first time home owners under Bush's watch. I think the number is over 1.5 million (www.nahb.org)

And O'Reilly blew the interview; if Brown "gave the money away" ($835k) as he said, he would have had receipts if he did it legally. Why didn't Bill ask him that?

13 posted on 07/21/2004 9:05:00 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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He was blowing smoke. He gave no specifics, only generalities and was touting the Democratic party line; lies and false accusations.

Also he said not to call illegal aliens by that name because it will offend them, but that something like Michael Moores movie is not offensive, at least to him, he said.


14 posted on 07/21/2004 9:07:28 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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The morons over at PMSNBC have hired Downtown Willie Brown to do commentary at the DNC convention next week.

Should be a real ratings-grabber for them. [/sarcasm]

15 posted on 07/21/2004 9:07:47 PM PDT by TheGrimReaper (o)(o)....Keeping abreast for 50 years now.)
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The morons over at PMSNBC have hired Downtown Willie Brown to do commentary at the DNC convention next week

BWAHAHAHA

Brown the DNC poster child for MSNBC!! I Love it!! LOL!!!

16 posted on 07/21/2004 9:11:16 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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Also he said not to call illegal aliens by that name because it will offend them, but that something like Michael Moores movie is not offensive, at least to him, he said.

Doesn't that just frost you? How can you not call illegal immigrants by what they are? They are here illegally. Hello. Should we start quoting stats on what each illegal means to us as taxpayers every year? Staggering and probably belongs in another thread.

I agree with several in this thread that indicated O'Reilly went a little soft on several issues (i.e. pulled a Larry King). Particularly on the funds issue, but perhaps he wasn't informed enough to dig a little deeper.

Thanks for the repsonse.
17 posted on 07/21/2004 9:12:39 PM PDT by dad4america
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SF Mayor WILLIE BROWN =

Supporter of HO CHI MINH City's being SF's Sister City and an Adversary of SF's Free Vietnamese-Amercan Community having it's Free Flag of Vietnam declared by SF as the Officially recognized Flag of Vietnam, thus still recognizing the Communist Flag of Vietnam instead.
http://www.rfvn.com

The Enemy is now Within...
and always has been.

.


18 posted on 07/21/2004 9:12:46 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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How much did the city and county of SF give up in the Great Fund Robbery from Sacremento going on at this moment or did Burton protect them...
19 posted on 07/21/2004 9:13:41 PM PDT by tubebender (If I had known I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself...)
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I think not informed enough, and also I think he was stunned by Browns blatant ignorance. And also I think he has a hard time getting corrupt individuals like Brown on his show, so he goes light on them so they'll come back, if he wants them back. Now if M. Moore ever came on there, I doubt he would care if he had him on their a second time. Hopefully Canada will be locking Moore up soon, anyhow.
20 posted on 07/21/2004 9:18:31 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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