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News & Observer ^ | 07/04/04 | AC Snow

Posted on 07/18/2004 12:16:52 PM PDT by Copernicus

Another Triangle woman tells of being stopped by two Raleigh police officers, one apparently in training, who contended she wasn't wearing her seatbelt.

Shown it was fastened, the officers retired to patrol car for a conference before returning 10 minutes later.

One handed her a $75 citation because, he said, the shoulder belt was "too loose".

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: lunacy; nannystate; seatbelt
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To: bikepacker67
Still a bad way to wear a seatbelt - actually might be even dangerous, given that it's a recipe for broken ribs and punctured lungs

Excellent! You now acknowledge under some circumstances seatbelts can be dangerous.

Are you familar with the phenomenom of "aortal tear" which can occur when seatbelts are worn as designed?

Best regards,

61 posted on 07/18/2004 3:01:21 PM PDT by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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To: Copernicus; Constitution Day; azhenfud; Howlin; mykdsmom
This arrives by way of the Great State of North Carolina

I am advised it is bad news when even card carrying Bolsheviks bemoan their own inane laws.

Well it's fitting it's from North Carolina. But do not blame 'Bolsheviks' for this law. Oh, no. Our Senatorial representation (R), who I was told we couldn't live without (because we had to win back the Senate (fat lot of good that it's done..)), was the one who first instituted a push at the federal level for the former separate and sovereign states to pass seat belt legislation. This was back when she was Secretary of Transportation. Long before the days of her wonderful work at the Department of Labor where she begin the ergonomics campaign later signed by Clinton in 2000 that conservatives complain about

Of course we can also thank this wonder woman (R) for airbags, third brake lights, 21 year old drinking age (against the will of the states) and federally mandated 55 mph speed limits continuing at that time. So next time you put that seat belt on, remember to thank a 'conservative'.

NC ping for the wonderful legacy of our 'conservative' Senator affecting our lives daily

62 posted on 07/18/2004 3:05:53 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Pete98

actually many prosecutors are of the opinion that all citizens are criminals of something. It is impossible not to be breaking some law somehow somewhere.


63 posted on 07/18/2004 3:07:47 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: wimpycat


I'm 5'2 with C cup breasts the seat belt in my 2004 rio even tho it is adjustable still cuts into my neck and squishes my boob. I also tuck my seat belt under my arm and slide it back up if stopped.


64 posted on 07/18/2004 3:14:16 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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The following should cause your insurance rates to go up:

Rock climbing, serial fornication, not wearing a seatbelt, speeding, smoking, excessive drinking, chronic obesity, cliff diving, playing rugby, being a stuntman, owning a tiger, marrying a blonde, flipping off gangstas who cut you off on the freeway, eating non-organic foods, working as a human cannonball in the circus, having a friend who believes Al Gore is a genius.

I would totally sign up for an insurance company that based your rates on your lifestyle choices. Even if it meant giving up some privacy and personal freedoms, I would choose to do so in order to save some cash on ridiculous insurance costs.

65 posted on 07/18/2004 3:17:38 PM PDT by twgiles
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To: Copernicus
One handed her a $75 citation

,,, that works out to be an enviable hourly rate.

66 posted on 07/18/2004 3:19:24 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: Copernicus
Pathophysiology: Blunt aortic injury is part of the spectrum of blunt or deceleration polytrauma. The major regions of concern in the thorax are the heart, major vessels, abdominal organs, neck, spine, and aerodigestive tract. Penetrating injury (eg, stabbing or gunshot injury) is a different clinical entity from blunt or deceleration trauma.

Blunt or deceleration injury to the aorta is mostly confined to the thoracic aorta, except in the seat-belt injury, which involves the abdominal aorta. The radiologic evaluation must be as accurate as possible. Thoracotomy entails a significant risk, and a missed diagnosis is life threatening.

For this discussion, aortic rupture or disruption includes the aorta, the proximal portion of the great vessels, and the sinuses of Valsalva. The most common location for TAI is at the isthmus, just beyond the origins of the great vessels. In decreasing order of frequency, other locations are the descending thoracic aorta, the ascending aorta, the aortic arch, and the abdominal aorta. Ruptures at the aortic hiatus (diaphragm level) are less common. Competing theories of the mechanism of TAI have been proposed. Suffice it to say that the deceleration or crush forces interact with the asymmetric aortic fixation, causing translational and rotational forces that result in injury.

Pathologically, an aortic tear is usually transverse and involves the layers of the aorta to varying degrees. A complete tear through the intima, media, and adventitia usually leads to rapid exsanguination and death. In aortic rupture survivors, the pseudoaneurysm is contained by the adventitia and occasionally mediastinal structures.

Frequency:

In the US: Abdominal aortic TAI is extremely rare, with only 46 cases reported as of 1990.

Best Regards... ;-)

67 posted on 07/18/2004 3:30:54 PM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: Copernicus
Another Triangle woman tells of being stopped by two Raleigh police officers, one apparently in training, who contended she wasn't wearing her seatbelt.

Shown it was fastened, the officers retired to patrol car for a conference before returning 10 minutes later.

One handed her a $75 citation because, he said, the shoulder belt was "too loose".

==============

Hey, what are you gonna do? The city is broke and the judge wants a raise.

68 posted on 07/18/2004 3:31:53 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter & a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: Age of Reason

"...but their insurance companies should also be allowed to double their premium."

WRONG! Wearing or not wearing a seatbelt does not affect the chances of my having an accident. Therefore it should not affect my insurance premium. The insurance I pay for does not provide medical coverage for me if I am at fault in an accident. Whether I wear or not has zero-cost effect on the insurance company.


69 posted on 07/18/2004 3:52:32 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Copernicus
I will trade her the $75 ticket she received for the $250 ticket I got last week for stopping in a handicapped parking space at 6:30 AM to use an ATM at my credit union. I had completed my transaction, gotten back into my car and was talking to my wife who had stayed in the car while I used the the ATM prior to going out of town for the day. As I put my car in reverse I glanced in the rear view mirror and discovered someone had pulled in directly behind me, blocking my abilitiy to back out of the parking space and the person had gotten out of the vehicle leaving the driver's door open. I was convinced I was about to be robbed. This CU is in a rather seedy part of town and there have been several robberies of ATM customers there. Imagine my surprise when I was confronted not by an armed robber but rather by a member of the volunteer parking enforcement brigade! When I took exception to him blocking me in and pointed out that the CU didn't open for 4 hours and we were the only people in the parking lot, leaving three other disabled spots available, he got really pissy and told me my attitude 'has just gotten you a $250 ticket.' To make matters worse, when he was through writing the ticket he had the gall to tell my wife that he wasn't going to give me a ticket but my attitude was deplorable and it left him no choice. My son is a deputy sheriff and tells me my best bet is to pay the $250 and chalk it up to experience. It never occurred to me that anyone would take exaction to me parking in one of four handicapped spaces four hours before the business opened. Live and learn. I am quite happy I am in the final third of my life! I don't like what this country has turned into of late.
70 posted on 07/18/2004 3:55:58 PM PDT by jwpjr
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Well then, if you have no medical insurance let's make a law saying you don't need your seatbelt--but hospitals can't treat you unless it's cash up front.

We seat belt wearers don't need to pay for fixing you up at public expense.


71 posted on 07/18/2004 4:54:02 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: linear

LOL!

Well done.


72 posted on 07/18/2004 5:02:04 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: jwpjr
I am quite happy I am in the final third of my life! I don't like what this country has turned into of late.

Amen! And well put! Can't add anything more to that, and I know it's becoming a much more prevalent attitude with those of us in the 'advancing' years.

73 posted on 07/18/2004 5:07:12 PM PDT by hadit2here (I love my country, it's the government I can't stand.)
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To: billbears

Stop pinging me about Elizabeth Dole; I've asked you before, but I'm sick and tired of your dreary diatribes.

Failure to wear a seat belt contributes to more fatalities than any other single traffic safety-related behavior.

If you want to die, be my guest.


74 posted on 07/18/2004 5:10:06 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: jwpjr

Why didn't you just NOT park in the handicapped parking space to begin with?


75 posted on 07/18/2004 5:11:33 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: No Blue States

I'm in complete agreement. Many years ago when I was in an automoble accident my then husband told me later that the ONLY thing the State Trooper was interested in was weather or not I had been wearing my seat belt. He didn't want to know ANYTHING ELSE. And this was long before it became a law in Alabama.


76 posted on 07/18/2004 5:17:36 PM PDT by proudofthesouth
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To: Howlin
dreary diatribes

LOL, far be it from me to launch into my true feelings over our Senatorial representation (lowest conservative vote in over 30 years BTW, that's 'conservatism' that is!!). I just present the facts.

Failure to wear a seat belt contributes to more fatalities than any other single traffic safety-related behavior.

I guess like airbags huh?

"Elizabeth Dole led efforts to make airbags and automatic seatbelts mandatory in new passenger cars."National Safety Council Hall of Fame

Transportation Department itself reports that over 100 children and female adults have been killed by air bags, and 300,000 people injured each year."Liddy Dole’s Regulatory Ride," American Spectator, 6/99.

Economists Charles Lave and Patrick Elias examined the statistics before and after the 55-mile-per-hour law and concluded: "The fatality rate dropped by 3.4% -5.1% following the speed limit increase in states with higher speed limits--Do Higher Speed Limits Cause Accidents, What About All The Studies From The US?

As a conservative first and foremost I just think it is, and always will be, important to show how so called 'conservatives' are affecting our lives on a daily basis. I was sure as someone that was proud to the point of glee that said they voted for the woman, you would want to see how her legacy was doing in the state that she 'claims' as home. I just hope she still has a map though. Last time it took her 30 years and a promise of a Senate seat to come to NC...

If you want to die, be my guest.

Your concern for my wellbeing is just overflowing...

77 posted on 07/18/2004 5:36:49 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: billbears

Is it a comprehension problem you have or a retention problem?

I've asked you a million times NOT to ping me, yet you keep on.


78 posted on 07/18/2004 5:40:00 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: JockoManning
Mrs. Manning bought a triangular shoulderrestraint seatbelt aduster at Wal*Mart for $9 which slips over the buckle, snaps, and leaves the shoulder strap crossing over at her sternum; she says that's much more comfortable. The picture on the cardboard package for this adjuster shows a toddler, but ladies might want to try it for themselves.

You'll get a ticket for tampering with a seat belt.
79 posted on 07/18/2004 5:48:41 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: bikepacker67
So basically she had the shoulder strap BEHIND her.

Nope... I know a number of people who do this, particularly if they're short, and the shoulder strap height isn't adjustable.

Imagine how a normal shoulder belt crosses your shoulder, then goes across your chest to your waist. For shorter people, rather than going across the shoulder, it goes across their throat. So instead, they "thread" the shoulder belt under the armpit, and then across the lowerchest and belly. Of couse, the restraint was designed to go across bone, and not soft body tissue, so in an accident, there could be significant damage and injuries.

Mark

80 posted on 07/18/2004 5:49:42 PM PDT by MarkL (A werewolf?? Werewolf?? .... "There.... Wolf!")
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