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Is Canada Slowly Going American? (All your future are belong to us! Bwaahaaahaaahaaahaaaaa!)
Human Events ^ | Patrick Basham

Posted on 07/05/2004 6:49:16 PM PDT by quidnunc

Within the next year or so, Canada could elect its most pro-American leader in memory. In the first part of a two-stage electoral transition, this week the Conservative Party, led by free market economist Stephen Harper, reduced Prime Minister Paul Martin's all-powerful Liberal Party to minority government status.

After governing Canada without serious challenge for the past 11 years, the Liberals replaced long-time leader Jean Chretien with Martin late last year. During the 1990s, the Chretien government was ideologically compatible with the Clinton administration. During the 2000 presidential race, the Canadian ambassador to Washington undiplomatically voiced support for Al Gore's candidacy.

From 2001 onwards, the Chretien government did little to hide its antipathy to the Bush administration's nominally conservative policy prescriptions. On one occasion, a senior Chretien aide referred to President Bush as "a moron." Chretien, himself, privately regaled fellow Liberal legislators with jokes at President Bush's personal expense.

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The difference reflects, in part, the Liberal government's own credibility problems stemming from a litany of political corruption scandals. It also reflects a gradual evolution of the Canadian electorate's attitudes and values.

Today, Canadians look more kindly on free trade, economic competition, and wealth creation than in the past, while they are somewhat more skeptical of big government solutions to social and economic problems. In truth, Canadians more closely resemble Americans than they used to.

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TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: canuckistan; stephenharper
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To: Jim Noble
What you said. I love Nova Scotia, and especially Cape Breton Island, but wonder if the people still have the stuff their forebears had; too many French, anyway.

I'm all for the real working Canadians (BC, Albera, Manitoba, Saskatchewan maybe, to join the US. As to the Mexican provinces, I'd take Baja, but nothing else, and I'd fortify the border: I grew up in California and have seen it destroyed by illegal immigration. No thanks to a population of Mexican Indian peasants. Sorry.

21 posted on 07/05/2004 8:49:20 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: CatoRenasci
No thanks to a population of Mexican Indian peasants. Sorry.

Oh, I agree, I'd just move the fortified border 200 miles South.

22 posted on 07/05/2004 9:04:28 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: quidnunc; longtermmemmory

Thanks for the article,link. Interesting.


23 posted on 07/05/2004 9:06:57 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: middie
The country is pleasant and the people the friendliest in the world (with the notable exception of Quebec and its populace).

It is and they are if you don't bring up politics, whether in Quebec or not.

24 posted on 07/05/2004 9:12:49 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Leftists don't acknowledge that Reagan won the cold war because they rooted for the other side.)
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To: B-Chan

I like that map.


25 posted on 07/05/2004 9:19:57 PM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi... Saddam)
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To: cibco

I like that map too.


26 posted on 07/05/2004 9:39:30 PM PDT by albertabound (It's good to beee Albertabound.)
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To: headsonpikes
Some of us can remember when Canada was a free country.

It wasn't that long ago - just 40 years.


IIRC, I think it was sometimes referred to as "Switzerland of the North"...
that's how prosperous and well-run it appeared to be.

Here is the socio-economic study and investigation I'd like to see done:
Was it the influx of American draft-dodgers (and their leftist tendencies) combined
with Trudeau as PM...that started Canada's slide down a slippery slope?
27 posted on 07/05/2004 9:48:20 PM PDT by VOA
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To: plushaye

It would be an act of incredible stupidity to merge the two governments. Both Canada and the US are too large as it is. Even as it is, the geographical differences in America's politics shows that we'd all be better off if our geographic regions were given self-government.


28 posted on 07/06/2004 5:05:26 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Jim Noble

Hmmm. You'd have to displace a whole lot of Mexicans, turning them into the Palestinians of the 21st century. I remain skeptical, but open to good arguments why we would want those 200 miles of Mexican territory (since as far as I'm concerned it's all ours lent to them on sufferance after the Mexican War).


29 posted on 07/06/2004 5:08:12 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: quidnunc

Canada is Europhile. They prefer a good stiff dose of statism and Liberal Party corruption before they will imbibe anything American.


30 posted on 07/06/2004 5:10:37 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: CatoRenasci
I remain skeptical, but open to good arguments why we would want those 200 miles of Mexican territory (since as far as I'm concerned it's all ours lent to them on sufferance after the Mexican War).

Well, argument #1 is yours-it's our land, we won it fair and square.

Second, a line 200 miles to the south is shorter and the construction of the necessary wall will be easier (I obviously haven't done the survey, just where the most fortifiable line is is subject to debate).

Third, a destabilized rump Mexico, like the West Bank, will be unable to resist necessary punitive expeditions and search and destroy missions looking for terrorists. We will need several divisions of former Mexican citizens to work with us on this, my sense is that Sonorans and Chihuauans are better candidates for this role than peasants from the South.

The main point is that I think globalization will fail (has indeed failed already), that we need to plan for Fortress America, and that Mexico and Canada as presently constituted could become more threatening than the rump beggar states they could be turned into.

31 posted on 07/06/2004 6:50:44 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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Is Canada Slowly Going American? - Patrick Basham

Within the next year or so, Canada could elect its most pro-American leader in memory. In the first part of a two-stage electoral transition, this week the Conservative Party, led by free market economist Stephen Harper, reduced Prime Minister Paul Martin's all-powerful Liberal Party to minority government status.

After governing Canada without serious challenge for the past 11 years, the Liberals replaced long-time leader Jean Chretien with Martin late last year. During the 1990s, the Chretien government was ideologically compatible with the Clinton administration. During the 2000 presidential race, the Canadian ambassador to Washington undiplomatically voiced support for Al Gore's candidacy.

From 2001 onwards, the Chretien government did little to hide its antipathy to the Bush administration's nominally conservative policy prescriptions. On one occasion, a senior Chretien aide referred to President Bush as "a moron." Chretien, himself, privately regaled fellow Liberal legislators with jokes at President Bush's personal expense.

Chretien's initial response to the events of September 11, 2001, was viewed as underwhelming, particular in contrast to Britain's Tony Blair. President Bush subsequently excluded Canada from the list of countries he thanked during his September 20, 2001, speech to Congress.

Chretien also disagreed with Bush's decision to invade Iraq. Chretien's position mirrored the sentiments of most Canadians and, today, an even greater number are pleased that Canada stayed out of the Iraq war. However, Stephen Harper rhetorically trod the Blairite path in support of the president's decision to remove Saddam Hussein.

As leader of the new Conservative Party -- the product of a merger between the ideologically squishy Progressive Conservative (PC) party and Harper's larger, more ideologically robust Canadian Alliance party -- Harper has unapologetically pledged closer ties with the United States. For Harper, an improvement in Canada-U.S. relations is not simply a pragmatic concern driven by the importance of north-south trade.

Rather, it constitutes an opportunity for Canada to be a more reliable ally, a better friend, both rhetorically and substantively. He seeks to alter Canada's legendary invisibility in political Washington. Harper would significantly increase Canadian defense spending, elevate the Canadian ambassador to Washington to cabinet status, and form a U.S.-Canada customs union.

The Liberal campaign centered on hyperbolic attacks at Harper's support for tax cuts. Martin implied lower taxes were un-Canadian and disingenuously claimed that leaving more money in taxpayers' pockets would usher in an American-style state of nature where Canada's poor, elderly, and sick are left to fend for themselves.

While neither American conservatives nor libertarians would recognize the American polity as she is so frequently and erroneously described beyond her borders, such nationalistic appeals are notoriously effective. After all, the average Canadian has always defined himself in negative terms, i.e., in terms of "not being American."

Surprisingly, Harper was injured, but not fatally, by the Liberal charge that he was too pro-American. Historically, the Liberal Party has done well in national elections based in part on its fondness for playing the anti-American card. But the 2004 campaign was a little different.

The difference reflects, in part, the Liberal government's own credibility problems stemming from a litany of political corruption scandals. It also reflects a gradual evolution of the Canadian electorate's attitudes and values.

Today, Canadians look more kindly on free trade, economic competition, and wealth creation than in the past, while they are somewhat more skeptical of big government solutions to social and economic problems. In truth, Canadians more closely resemble Americans than they used to.

Harper's campaign exploited this opening to good effect with promises to cut taxes, limit increases in government spending, end corporate welfare, and withdraw Canada from the Kyoto accord on climate change. He also proposed to attack Canada's democratic deficit with an elected Senate, fixed election dates, referenda, and a more decentralized federation.

Harper is a rarity among national Canadian leaders. A genuine policy wonk, he has reflected long and hard about the role of government in society. In most areas, he recognizes that less, rather than more, government is the better option.

Coming 15 years after Harper helped to lead a grassroots exodus away from the last PC government to a new small-c conservative party, his party's solid showing serves as a neighborly reminder that adherence to principle can pay off electorally.

Today, the Conservatives are politically relevant and are nicely poised to exploit the inevitable traumas that will befall a Liberal minority government dependent upon the left-wing New Democratic Party for political survival. Occurring so close to home, is it too much to hope that Stephen Harper's achievement will also embolden President Bush's past commitment to limited government?

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Quid,

Nope, don't see Human Events on JimRob's list either....good points in this article....from what I can tell, it is usually the case that minority governments don't last too long here in Canada, typically in the range of 6 months to 2 years. In that time the Conservatives should be able to consolidate their ranks, avoid unnecessarily "policy statements" (like the one issued by the Premier of Alberta during the recent election) and become a driving force for REAL change here in Canada!

Quidnunc,


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32 posted on 07/06/2004 6:59:43 AM PDT by ConservativeStLouisGuy (11th FReeper Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Unnecessarily Excerpt)
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To: middie

I have met some lovely people in Quebec City. Montreal, on the other hand...


33 posted on 07/06/2004 7:26:58 PM PDT by JBGUSA
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