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To: Momaw Nadon

I don't know why Freepers get off thinking that this will be a box office bust & this is best ignored. Moore is a master propagandist and he knows exactly how to use disinformation to persuade sheeple. This film will break box office rewards and if we do not rise to it, it will have the potential to alter the election.


3 posted on 06/25/2004 11:58:29 AM PDT by Nataku X (Bush waited six minutes to react. Clinton waited eight years to react.)
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To: Nakatu X

it won't be breaking any box office records, let's not exaggerate that aspect of it.


7 posted on 06/25/2004 11:59:24 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: Nakatu X

Yep! Even the TV ads are misleading, as one ad I saw implied that Moore was firebrand to both conservatives and liberals, alike....giving the impression that he's an objective source.


14 posted on 06/25/2004 12:02:19 PM PDT by cwb (If it weren't for Republicans, liberals would have no real enemies)
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To: Nakatu X
I agree, this will be the biggest grossing movie of its kind. People here are going to be sorely dissapointed, and DUers are going to get alot of Shadenfreude out of us over the next few days.

It would be a good idea to compile a debunking "script" about the movie.

15 posted on 06/25/2004 12:02:59 PM PDT by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: Nakatu X
I don't know why Freepers get off thinking that this will be a box office bust & this is best ignored.

USA Today, for once, said it well. This movie will turn existing Bush haters into more virulent Bush haters. I do not see it having too much of an effect on swing voters - however, it is part of a broader effort to try and chip at swing voters a few at a time - hence the broad-scale liberal offensive - if the liberals send out thousands of propaganda messages and each of them move a few voters, then eventually it amounts to a measurable change.

What we need to do is to quit worrying so much about idealogical rifts within the right wing and make sure that we counter the B.S. wherever and whenever it is spewed, to push affected swing voters back into the Bush column. Freepers are for the most part superb wordsmiths - and we all need to saturate the media and the blogsphere with letters that counter Moore's propaganda and paint the liberals, not Bush, as the liars. And, since the libs are basically trying to re-write the past, the best approach is to do a bit of research and resurrect the history that the libs are trying to hard to forget - and use the liberal's own words to discredit them.

20 posted on 06/25/2004 12:04:00 PM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: Nakatu X
Michael Moore's previous "box-office smash" (Bowling for Columbine) had much better reviews than this new one and that movie raked in a measly $20 million domestically (less than such movies as "Ernest Goes to Camp" and Pauly Shore's "Bio-Dome". About half as much as "The Flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas!").

Only dedicated leftists go to see his lame propaganda. Oh and everybody in France.

23 posted on 06/25/2004 12:05:49 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Nakatu X
His best film to date made only $28 million gross. When they say it will "break records", those are the records. These films do not have a large audience, and I doubt you will see much repeat business.
24 posted on 06/25/2004 12:06:15 PM PDT by sharktrager (George Clooney has rubber nipples.)
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To: Nakatu X
Since this filthy swine is undermining the war effort and getting our troops killed by giving aid and comfort to the enemy,,,he should be arrested and charged with sedition,,,and jailed for 20+ years..
46 posted on 06/25/2004 12:25:04 PM PDT by aspiring.hillbilly
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To: Nakatu X

I don't think that this is that big of a deal. Let's say that this film does $50MM at the box office. At an average ticket price of $6, that means that 8.3M people will have seen the movie. Now the only people I know that are even remotely interested in seeing it are hardcore lefties. Lets say that a full 1/3 of the people seeing the movie are "undecided" that means that about 2.7M people. Lets assume that 90% of these people both enjoy the movie and are also so brain dead that they don't see it as pure propaganda. So Moore changed 2.4M votes.

Personally I don't think that it will make $50M, I think the average ticket will be way closer to $10, I think that the percentage of "undecided"'s will be closer to 5% and think that it will turn off a lot of people. Additionally, a significant amount of the revenue for this movie will come from NYC, LA, SF, Boston, DC and Chicago, places where the President has very little chance of winning anyway.

All in all if Moore spends $20M on convincing a couple million lefties to vote Kerry, who cares. Its about the equivalent of Err America, and who's worrying about that?


61 posted on 06/25/2004 12:45:43 PM PDT by GallopingGhost
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To: Nakatu X

The theater number are growing now....it will have an impact.

Likely a temporary one, but it will have an impact.


80 posted on 06/25/2004 1:16:50 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Nakatu X

It won't be a box office bust because every night on the freakin local news channels their talking about it and promoting it. It's DISGUSTING.


83 posted on 06/25/2004 1:22:23 PM PDT by Hildy ( If you don't stand up for what's RIGHT, you'll settle for what's LEFT.)
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To: Nakatu X

"I don't know why Freepers get off thinking that this will be a box office bust & this is best ignored."



I heard MM today on TV whole-heartedly thank all the films detractors as they have provided publicity worth millions. I say ignore it. Don't even mention the name of it. Prepare your rebuttal for when some whinner brings up a talking point from it, but otherwise it is best to ignore it. MM said if not for people like us his film would have no publicity. He was laughing at us. Don't give him the satisfaction.


85 posted on 06/25/2004 1:26:12 PM PDT by bk1000
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