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And thus, in the space of only 175 posts spanning 2:09, we've gone from the plan itself being idiotic to the plan being completely disregarded because the messenger is a "plagiarist" who "hates Bush". The remainder of the thread is little more than a flamefest, and the discussion of the initial plan has been buried in namecalling and over-the-top rhetoric.

Groupthink can be a scary thing.

Your comment belongs to the flamefest. I've gone off this thread, reading others posts and not contributing for some time, but if you want to see some flames, try reading Don Joe's posts. They are some of the rudest here.

The fact that I disagree with Joseph Farrah's conclusions on this matter and do not believe they are accurate is hardly reason to charge me with "groupthink" now, is it? Or is that what you say to everyone who doesn't agree with you on every post?

This entire thread has become useless, due to the flaming that Don Joe began, sustained, and called others to. I have no interest in the subject at all anymore, I came in here to reply to your insult. I suspect that anybody who wants to can read the thread and find out where the problems began.

This article is speculation disguised as reporting. Apparently a number of people want to take it as gospel and written in granite.

Now, you may feel compelled to reply with another insult which you will justify by this post to you, NL, because you will have felt yourself insulted somehow. But I won't be around. I am sure, however, that DJ will be back to see how well his minions have kept up the "battle" over absolutely nothing.

And I hope the entire thing is moved to the "Smokey Backroom" because that's where it has belonged since Don Joe came on.

The "groupthink" to which I refer facilitated the degeneration of this thread from genuine questioning of this policy to smearing WND in order to avoid the policy. You may deny it, but that is groupthink whether you like it or not.

BTW, what's with copying the Admin Moderator?

Any other articles about this.

Sounds like hogwash to me.

It sounds like this is a little commission report that means nothing and has no power; as the lede even admits, the report just "recommends" screening for every citizen; it doesn't order it and there is no evidence in the article except for the idiotic lede that jumps the gun that Bush himself will push or order for such. The report will be issued and somehow WND makes this into a "Bush to screen..." story.

As usual, just a case of WND stretching the truth.

Now, you may feel compelled to reply with another insult which you will justify by this post to you, NL, because you will have felt yourself insulted somehow. But I won't be around. I am sure, however, that DJ will be back to see how well his minions have kept up the "battle" over absolutely nothing.

"Minions?"

And I hope the entire thing is moved to the "Smokey Backroom" because that's where it has belonged since Don Joe came on.

Oh, there are too many useful links here to squander the whole thread by relegating it to the Backroom on the basis of some moderate flaming, which was indulged by posters of diverse opinions.

The fact that I disagree with Joseph Farrah's conclusions on this matter

1. His name was not in that document.

2. For lack of a better term, "your side" has repeatedly asserted that WND's article is a substantially identical copy of the British Medical Review article by Jeanne Lenzer, so I guess we should copy her on this, because realistically, she is being defamed here by people saying the most outlandish things about her article.

3. When all is said and done, "your side" falls back on its position of final desperation, i.e., so WHAT if the charges are true (hint: they are, they've been confirmed in the source material, referenced on the White House web server), Bush would NEVER do that anyway, because he's a nice man.

4. And finally, when all else fails, put beans in your ears, and demand that the opposition be either silenced, or moved to the back room. Ah, censorship -- the final refuge of the lost debate.