Posted on 06/21/2004 9:28:09 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
Excellent suggestion.
Though I might do it with gloves on.
Have sent it to my email distribution list.
Great doc.
THANKS TONS.
Nope. That was a girl from PENTHOUSE. This is Elizabeth Ward Gracen.
I also added many paragraph breaks to the long unbroken section. I realized there were many ";" in it but it still needed broken up, imho.
U R welcome. Luv the tag!
Thanks.
Am in contact with my former univ boss from 30 years ago. Amazingly, he's turned super liberal and cites stories from a buddy he had in the Army in Germany who ended up in the CIA and is now retired.
I recently had an email exchange with my boss re the ACLU attacking the cross etc. and he seemed rather kindly disposed toward the ACLU and said he gave his input to various leaders of the org. Do you have anything you can tell me that I could 'throw at him' ???
Thanks.
Simple formula: 90% of all cases chosen by the ACLU are solely to destroy the United States and our freedoms.
There are women who act as enablers. They know their man is committing rape, sometimes it's a step parent who rapes her daughter and she allows it to go on. That's what Hillary is. An enabler.
Why does a woman become an enabler? What is the pay-off? There always is one. She gets to keep the man. For some it's simple security that they would sell their souls for. But Hillary wasn't afraid to lose something as simple as security. She was prepared to overlook anything, even repeated rapes, to ride her man to the White House.
They made a deal - she looked the other way while she ran the country and Billy boy did as he liked. Klintoon was never President. Hillary was. He never took the job seriously. She did. And now she wants it for herself. (That's my view, all the way from Oz.)
Her statement "I'm proud that my husband has stood up as President to confront the violence and protect American women" fair took my breath away. Thanks for posting it.
That, is an AWESOME idea!
Time to unseal all those additional documents from the impeachment hearings. The ones that have never seen the light of day. After all as the press is constantly telling us, the people have a right to know....
If there was anything that convinced me that these stories were real early on, it was the interview with Elizabeth Ward Gracen in the Toronto Sun Times. A number of the details such as biting the victim's lips were so similar it was stunning. Gracen claims to have been involved in a one night stand, while friends of hers claim she was in hysterics at he time and had clearly been raped. She started getting good acting parts at about that time...
The Toronto Times interview has totally disappeared from the internet for whatever reason. Nonetheless, I saved it. Here it is:
EX-LOVER TELLS OF HER FEAR OF CLINTON
Toronto Sun via Grabbe
September 17, 1998
"people were being staked out"
To millions, Elizabeth Gracen will forever be linked to the
fall of a powerful man.
"He died in my arms," she says, speaking, of course, of her
role in the 1990 TV movie, The Death Of The Incredible
Hulk.
You were thinking of someone else? Then-Arkansas Governor,
now pig-boy U.S. President Bill Clinton, perhaps, with whom
Gracen had a one-time sexual encounter?
Fifteen years ago. Everyone who hasn't fooled with a loser
or three, step forward. Now get over it.
Gracen is starting to.
Living here helps. Her syndicated series Highlander: The
Raven, premiering on VR Wednesday and inducting her into
TV's Buffy-Xena kick-ass heroine club, shoots half its
episodes here, half in Paris. None in Washington.
Clinton's unfolding free-fall and waning power bring her
new peace of mind.
Remember that this is a woman who wanted nothing to do with
him ever again, wanted nothing from him now or then. She
rebuffed the tabloids' dirty money and went public this
spring only when she says she had to correct a lie, a
former friend's deposition in the Paula Jones case that
claimed Clinton had forced himself on Gracen. She found
herself a piece of what she calls "this horrible chess
game."
Speaking at the gracious Annex mansion she shares with her
boyfriend, New York-born investment banker Pat Augustus,
and her doted-on Great Dane, Bronte, Gracen expresses
relief.
"I think Clinton is a very dangerous, manipulative man and
I've had to be very careful," she says.
"There was a lot of pressure on my family and friends,
people were being staked out. I was a little bit afraid for
my own safety at one point. It's just not an area where
you're safe."
She pauses, then says, "I would never have said what I just
told you a month ago."
This month, karma has caught Clinton by the tail and life
is looking up.
On Highlander, life lasts forever. Gracen plays Amanda, an
immortal thief finally learning from 1,200 years of
experience. She takes pleasure in the character's fearless
persona, "because that's the way I see women if they ever
owned the power that they have, and truly listened to their
own voices."
As well as a good job and relative sanctuary from the
ruckus in Washington, Highlander has offered her the gift
of friendship, something she was hungry for. She's pals
with co-star Patricia Gage and the heavily-female crew.
They hang out, call each other The Chinchilla Social Club.
"It's something that I needed so badly. I lost so many
friends this year in terms of betrayal," says Gracen.
"These women have been such a resting place for me. We sit
in the trailer and just gossip and laugh our heads off and
talk about important things and just really bond."
Before decamping for Paris, she's hoping the London film
festival will screen her first effort as a director, The
Damn Deal, a moving, entertaining documentary about three
female impersonators. In her film, the men metamorphose
into their stage selves, finishing up looking for all the
world like prototypical Clinton girls -- big-haired,
lipsticked pageant queens.
Gracen roars with laughter at the thought.
"He'll be after them," she says. "No one's safe."
Toronto Sun, September 17, 1998
Personally, I'm still wondering about THE CLINTON BODY COUNT. I suppose everyone has read this:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.html
Any comments for an aussie who doesn't know quite how to deal with this, would be appreciated.
Yes, afterall, it is only sex.
And of course Gracen was in Playboy, not Penthouse.
Minor point but as your posting shows the newspaper is called just the Toronto Sun not Sun Times. That is the Chicago paper. There is no Sun Times or Toronto Times here in Toronto.
Frankly, one ought to be grateful that Bill Clinton's book probably contains very little truth about "his life." Can you imagine the nightmares we might have?
EXcellent catch!
Monica was given a copy of the Clinton Body Count early on to shut her up.
There is so much sleaze to remember. :)
Thank you! I always say spread the good news and, in krinton's case, his bad news is out good news.
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