[counterpunch]

Giuliani's position is secured because he is an American icon, and a Republican hero, just as Arnold is. Would you honestly rather see Gary Bauer or something on stage before the nation instead of these two?

Is winning elections anywhere in your agenda?
How do you expect to advance any part of your agenda if you don't first win the election?

[NittanyLion]

Giuliani's position is secured because he is an American icon, and a Republican hero

Indeed. All politics aside, Giuliani secured his legacy in the weeks after 9/11. He certainly is a hero.

just as Arnold is.

Remind me again what Arnold's done to put himself on a par with Giuliani...

Would you honestly rather see Gary Bauer or something on stage before the nation instead of these two?

No. I'd rather see Bill Owens or Rick Santorum, to name two that quickly come to mind.

Is winning elections anywhere in your agenda? How do you expect to advance any part of your agenda if you don't first win the election?

Let me see if I understand this...showcasing an up-and-coming conservative at the convention and winning elections is mutually exclusive. Is that your stance?

[itsahoot]

How do you expect to advance any part of your agenda if you don't first win the election?

Well maybe the winner would first have to have my agenda?

[Chemist_Geek]

Is winning elections anywhere in your agenda?
How do you expect to advance any part of your agenda if you don't first win the election?

No, winning an election is less important than maintaining ideological purity. At least, to far too many posters here, it is. They don't even stop to think that in order to govern conservatively, one must first win elections...