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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Ten
Yahoo News ^ | 6-10-04 | AP

Posted on 06/10/2004 2:28:29 PM PDT by JustPiper

Picture credit: TheCabal

"I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat"

LINK TO THREAD NINE

U.S. Charges Australian Linked to al-Qaida

WASHINGTON - An Australian held at the Navy's prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, will face a military tribunal for allegedly training and fighting alongside members of al-Qaida in Afghanistan (news - web sites), the Pentagon (news - web sites) announced Thursday.

We are the "Stotters" who make ourselves aware of the enemy who wishes to do us harm


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To: MamaDearest

This seems like there is more to this story.
We'll just have to standby to hear/read the rest of it.


481 posted on 06/11/2004 11:18:05 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Velveeta

Yes, and the best that Kingman offers.

It is caused by scar tissue, from a head injury when I was small.

I fell from the second floor and landed with my head in a big milk can, or else, I might be dead.

No medicine and no cures. If there is pain, the Lavender helps me to sleep for a while.

He didn't tell me what to expect, just the word blind or maybe I quit listening at that point.

But my right eye closes completely and the lid will not come up, the left goes to half way and I can still see.

And then sometimes it is fine. Have had double vision all my life.

I read every book that was out there for years, I think that I was always afraid that the day would come when I couldn't.

None of my family reads as I have. Or understands why I have always read so many books.


482 posted on 06/11/2004 11:53:25 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You can help win the election by becoming a REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, easy go to Court House and sign up)
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To: All

AP News is on the radio.

they tell that the new tape has been released, but no details.

Also that all the Law Enforcement Agencies have been placed on alert for the ELF group.

We had the Elf warning in post #78, from my notes.


483 posted on 06/12/2004 12:07:30 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You can help win the election by becoming a REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, easy go to Court House and sign up)
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To: milkncookies

If you will do a simple granny google on these, you will have it all.

The second one when run, returned something for the Balkans with todays date but I can't open it. Maybe nothing or importance. (the first link)

What has google done to itself? It wouldn't let me add 1425 to the existing search, hope they haven't changed their program.


484 posted on 06/12/2004 12:32:28 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You can help win the election by becoming a REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, easy go to Court House and sign up)
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To: piasa; backhoe; FairOpinion; RaceBannon; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Dog; Shermy; Sabertooth; ...

ON THE NET:

http://meshawir.topcities.com/aljhad.html
http://members.hostedscripts.com/top.cgi?user=meshawir
http://alqa3edah.i6networks.com/fileslisting.html
http://alqa3edah.i6networks.com/911.html
http://www.ansarnet.ws/vb/


485 posted on 06/12/2004 3:35:59 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Donna Lee Nardo; All
The more I learn about these GWEN towers the more intriguing they are.

Here is an intersting quote I recently read, “The GWEN hardware is transistor based; even if placed in hardened bunkers it would still be vulnerable to electro magnetic pulse. The real purposes of the GWEN system is being kept secret from the American people."

I dont know what to think anymore, I'm still waiting for those comets to ruin my day.

486 posted on 06/12/2004 6:39:38 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways)
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To: Quix
"You might do well to put on your asbestos hazmat suit now. "

Why? If Christ stands with me, and HE does, then who can stand against me?

If the masons stay true to form, they will ignore my passing from their ranks without so much as a blink.

487 posted on 06/12/2004 6:44:35 AM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic. (R.I.P. harpseal))
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To: ßuddaßudd
I'm still waiting for those comets to ruin my day.

I'm a little disappointed with whole comet hoax. If it was my time I was looking forward to it. I hope we at least get some kinda shooting star show or a good meteor shower.

488 posted on 06/12/2004 6:54:59 AM PDT by bored at work (My God is the main course. . .not allah carte')
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To: Honestly
"The testing may affect cell phones as well as navigation devices in boats, airplanes or cars."

Should we watch for plane and boating accidents in this area? Seems like a dumb idea.

489 posted on 06/12/2004 6:58:10 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: bored at work

LOL you and me both. Toutatis is the next object of interest.


490 posted on 06/12/2004 7:05:35 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways)
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To: bored at work
Space relic falls into living room
491 posted on 06/12/2004 7:53:35 AM PDT by milkncookies (http://www.blackvault.com/documents/ADA359880.pdf)
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To: JustPiper
Suffered a multiple wound knife attack by an unbalanced fan. See, this sounds achingly familiar. Imagine had the victim been armed with a handgun and been properly trained in it's use on a hostility personified? Nichol Brown Simpson comes to mind. Had she been through my concealed weapons permit course and taken some advanced training and maybe practiced with an IDPA Club, she'd be both a hero and a very rich widow today!

Think about it, so many Hollywood thrillers and tragedies would be just a few moments long, had the victim been armed. Take Cujo. Dog pounces on stalled vehicle, trapping mother and daughter inside. Mother produces .45 from glove box. BANG! Roll credits.

Now this: "The true story of the brutal attack on actress Theresa Saldana by an unbalanced fan . People watched, she begged, they did nothing! "

Never EVER become a victim due to your own helplessness!

Put your back to a wall. Beg LOUDLY as you draw your pistol, then SMOKE 'EM!" Later in court, the witnesses can testify, "Your Honor, I heard this POOR SOUL Begging for his very LIFE!!! Then I heard a shot!"

It's Miller Time!

492 posted on 06/12/2004 7:55:28 AM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT
I never got a coin. But then each State Lodge is unto itself and totally apart from all other states insofar as rules for operating, etc. There are several benign sounding "code phrases" which Masons use to recognize each other as well as at least one totally silent "emergency distress signal" and at least three different secret handshakes. Really.
493 posted on 06/12/2004 8:01:51 AM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: ExSoldier
Rumors of active reserves being called up. Air Force in particular.
Can anyone confirm this?
494 posted on 06/12/2004 8:11:51 AM PDT by milkncookies (http://www.blackvault.com/documents/ADA359880.pdf)
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To: milkncookies

Good morning. Just checking in. Any major updates?

I plucked this off of Mutter's:



Bush rejects Nth Korea's offer


June 12, 2004 - 5:05PM



US President George W Bush has rejected a passionate offer from North Korea's supreme leader Kim Jong-Il for direct talks between their countries, press reports in Japan said.

The offer was conveyed to Bush by Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi, who met Kim on May 22, during their talks Tuesday on the sidelines of the Group of Eight (G8) summit in the US state of Georgia, the reports said.

"He (Kim) wanted to dance (with Bush) so much as to get thirsty," Koizumi told the US president in a somewhat cryptic expression, the influential daily Asahi Shimbun reported, quoting a source close to the premier.

Bush replied that Washington would not negotiate with Pyongyang bilaterally but it would seek to solve a 20-month standoff over North Korea's nuclear arms development in an existing six-nation forum in Beijing, the report said.

Another major daily, the Mainichi Shimbun, also reported that Koizumi had used the unusual expression to convey Kim's wish for bilateral dialogue.


The paper said though that it was uncertain if Kim had himself used such "vivid" terms when he met with Koizumi.

The Japanese foreign ministry only said Koizumi had told Bush that Kim had a "strong desire" for bilateral talks, the daily said.

The United States claims that North Korea has been pursuing a clandestine uranium-based nuclear program despite its 1994 pledge to freeze nuclear development. It vows not to reward Pyongyang for a compromise on the standoff.

Koizumi last month held his second summit with Kim in 20 months. The meeting focussed on the abductions of Japanese nationals by North Korean agents in the 1970s, a thorny issue which has stalled talks on the normalisation of relations between the two countries.


www.theage.com.au/article...click=true




495 posted on 06/12/2004 8:27:24 AM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: milkncookies
I can't confirm as to an immediate situation. Long term, the Iraq situation is causing a definite realignment of the force structure worldwide. Clinton absolutely GUTTED our military (Damn the LIBERALS!) and so to face the new threats, we are moving forces out of Germany and South Korea. That's a better use of our resources anyway. EU spends all it's time pi$$ing on us, let's make 'em use their own funds for self defense. Same for Korea.

For sometime, I know that former SpecOps guys have been recalled from retirement as well as CIA assets. A neighbor of my wife's dad was recalled for this. His wife is hopping mad. The old guy is in his middle 70's and suddenly the CIA is putting him back in "harness?" Don't know what his specialty was, however.

496 posted on 06/12/2004 8:32:33 AM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: jstolzen

I've been thinking about your GPS/cellphone comments! It makes sense to have GPS disrupted in say- the Florida area- due to military exercises---but why the two- distinct areas of GPS shutdown?

Also about the "environmental" whacko alert to cities on the West Coast and one in Massachusetts. I am wondering if the environmental whacko threat is a cover for an AQ threat to those areas. Notice all the fires burning, the hazmat incidents, and the like. Also the "device" found near a Seattle ferry-- just thinking out loud.


497 posted on 06/12/2004 8:32:37 AM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: StillProud2BeFree

And those flags in the crosshairs are...?


498 posted on 06/12/2004 8:33:22 AM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

Re- London evacuation plan:

We might want to track down when the Queen plans to "visit" one of the aircraft carriers. That might provide a clue to the date London is to get hit.


499 posted on 06/12/2004 8:35:54 AM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: Quix

"What would be your guesstimates?"

To estimate actual fighters across dozens of organizations across dozens of countries, then add on "fixers and facilitators", then add even more low level supporters, is (IMO) to pull a number out of a hat. But, no, I don't think your estimate that one-tenth of one percent of worldwide Muslims (a million out of over a billion) is "seriously intent on destruction of all infidels " (encompassing all categories described above) is inflated. Neither do I have a problem with your second guess that another quarter to half percent of all Muslims worldwide might feel strongly enough about one of the dozens of struggles that they would write a check, provide shelter, or otherwise give some indirect support.

But if we conclude that the other 99.75% of Muslims are "the enemy" (despite the fact they have done nothing so far to deserve that title except for the fact they happen to be Muslim - - and that they mostly don't like us - - but neither do most of our "friends" at the moment), because we conclude that their religion is irredeemably violent (which does not explain why less than 1% are actually engaged in jihad), then this becomes not a war against "jihadis" or "militant Islam" or "political Islam", but a war against just plain Islam, then the other 99.75% of the one billion will perceive themselves as being under actual or imminent attack, and they will respond accordingly.

It would make more sense to unilaterally declare war on China. At least those billion are not spread over some 60 countries and not susceptible to a martyrdom ideology with WMD as the weapon of choice.

The war is for the hearts and minds of the 99.75%. The trigger-pulling with the .25% (without denigrating the heroism and sacrifice of those who are fighting that very lethal segment) is, at least relatively speaking, in the great scheme of things, a sideshow.

That is why the "prisoner abuse/torture/systematic homicides/officially sanctioned atrocities" was without question, the most damaging blow ever to hit America. More damaging than Pearl Harbor and more damaging than 9/11.

And we did it to ourselves.

They didn't "miscalculate" on 9/11. They *knew* we would respond. They were hoping we would go into Muslim countries and out of blind rage just tear the places apart. What are they trying to do in Saudi? Attack the oil so the world gets its oil spigot turned off and force us all to descend on Mecca (proving their point that there really *is* a holy war going on against all Islam)

Why are they trying as we speak to pull off a WMD attack in the US? So we will be enraged to the point that we fulfill their prophecy and go over there with a blind, nuclear rage and send their women and children straight to Allah. The militants are that sick. (Look at the picture of the baby with the gun) They are baiting us into giving them mass martyrdom, turning the 99.75% to unrestrained holy war, and giving them the apocalyptic clash of civilizations they want.

The unfolding torture and abuse has done more to validate al Qaeda's rantings that we are intent on a crusader conquest of occupation, exploitation, and humiliation than anything we could have imagined in our wildest nightmares.

This war is not just about bullets and bombs. It is primarily about ideas - - hearts and minds. If we win the battle but lose the war, it will not matter. If we equate Islam with jihad, then we have handed the jihadis a strategic victory. That is what they have been trying to convince the one billion for a decade now. And legitimating their ideology by giving them the holy war they want will take them from their caves and basements to the parliaments and palaces of the region. And they will fund global jihad not with donations from sympathizers, but with the world's energy under their feet. And if we retaliate with WMD on one of our cities with WMD in spades on theirs, then we will not have a million holy warriors, but one thousand times more.

Why are they trying so hard to get WMD and use it on us? If we don't understand the strategy of the enemy, then we will lose.

If we don't somehow get the central point of WMD and holy war, then speaking as someone who knows a little bit about what I am talking about, we are finished.

Finished.


500 posted on 06/12/2004 8:37:32 AM PDT by NothingMan
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