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To: weegee
You do that, as apparently I'll need to be around to counter your claim that consensual sex that a woman later regrets counts as date rape.

There was nothing in either of the stories about the poor men being drunk at the time and thus unable to fend him off as he unzipped their pants. There's every indication that they welcomed his advances and had no problem with their "prior sexual relations" until they found out he was really male.

At first, the news that she had male anatomy brought laughter and derision, but the mood soon soured. For the next two hours, it's alleged that the men beat Gwen so savagely that police described her eventual death as "overkill."

Police said one young man hit her in the head with a soup can, then a skillet. She sank to the floor and was kicked so hard in the head she dented the wall when she hit it. The men allegedly wrapped her in a blanket to prevent blood from staining the couch and floor. Prosecutors said she was dragged to the garage, where they strangled her, then tossed her in the back of a pickup. Another man hit her in the head with a shovel to ensure that she was dead.

I suppose you'd say they shouldn't be found guilty for the brutal two hour murder since you think they were drunk at the time? I guess they were thinking straight enough to protect the furniture from those inconvenient blood stains.

38 posted on 05/27/2004 3:31:43 PM PDT by ahayes
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To: ahayes
I suppose you'd say they shouldn't be found guilty for the brutal two hour murder since you think they were drunk at the time?

The murder was a crime of passion. Premeditated but still the result of rage.

I will not play these sematics games with you. You know that this man designed his own death trap by toying with what homosexuals call "rough trade". This is not the only incident where this type of thing occurs. Labelling it a "hate crime" is a fallicy. It speaks nothing of the "hate" that the homosexual community has for heterosexuals by which they feel "I'll show them, I can get them off."

It is a sexual violation which is RAPE.

59 posted on 05/27/2004 5:11:16 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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