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Deliveryman: I Shot Man In Self-Defense(Fired from Pizza Hut for Saving his life from Thug!!)
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| 05-18-2004
Posted on 05/21/2004 10:26:28 AM PDT by NJ Freeper
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To: Xenalyte
Yeah yeah yeah, and what if a frog had wings? He wouldn't bump his ass when he hopped. Try to keep it in the realm of the plausible. Every example I posted was widespread in "corporate America" until a few years ago. And it still goes on, although less blatant.
My point was simply that corporate "rights" don't trump over certain individual Rights, such as the Right to self defense.
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posted on
05/21/2004 12:50:31 PM PDT
by
Mulder
(Fight the future)
To: Skywalk
I was told at the border(without them seeing my CCW permit) "you know you aren't allowed to bring in any handguns with you into Canada, right sir?" I've seen similar sentiments posted on some of the gun forums.
It's very likely they have this info on you (and all of us), especially with the ongoing centralization of databases.
82
posted on
05/21/2004 12:51:41 PM PDT
by
Mulder
(Fight the future)
To: O.C. - Old Cracker
No way - really? You are so welcome! I love making people laugh. (Believe you me, you'd laugh even harder if you saw a picture of me today in that getup.)
83
posted on
05/21/2004 1:00:12 PM PDT
by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I shall defend to the death your right to stick it)
To: Mulder
A few years ago? You mean, 40 or so?
84
posted on
05/21/2004 1:00:32 PM PDT
by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I shall defend to the death your right to stick it)
To: Xenalyte
85
posted on
05/21/2004 1:04:23 PM PDT
by
O.C. - Old Cracker
(When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
To: Little Ray
What is not mentioned in the article is the coroners report that Brown was so high on meth or crack that he would not have reacted to the initial half dozen gunshot wounds.
86
posted on
05/21/2004 1:37:04 PM PDT
by
B4Ranch
( "Lady, I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element")
To: Xenalyte
I don't think so.
She asked AFTER she had my ID in her possession. She didn't direct the question at my girlfriend at the time who was driving the car.
87
posted on
05/21/2004 1:45:07 PM PDT
by
Skywalk
(Transdimensional Jihad!!)
To: fedupwithlibs
You didn't read my post. The stopping power is about the same. I also said the reason he shot 15 times wasn't because his load (likely a 9mm) was underpowered, but because he wasn't a very good shot. Shot placement is much more important than stopping power, since your 96 percent assumes direct placement. I can hit anyone with a .40 in the leg, and it won't stop him. Three shots with a 9 -- two to the chest, and one to the head, will stop just about anyone.
As far as exiting, the penatration figures don't mean exiting is automatic. I'm not saying the .40 is a bad load. Quite the contrary. But it isn't necessary as a well loaded nine will do the job just fine.
88
posted on
05/21/2004 1:49:36 PM PDT
by
1L
To: antiblazer
So, would you put .40SW "in between" 9mm and .45 ACP in terms of stopping power? That's my impression, also in terms of concealability.
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posted on
05/21/2004 2:03:12 PM PDT
by
rudy45
To: 1L
You didn't read my post. The stopping power is about the same. Three shots with a 9 -- two to the chest, and one to the head, will stop just about anyone.
As far as all the statistics I could find on "One Shot Stopping Power", the .40 S&W COR-BON 135-GR is rated the highest (96% to 98%)with a .357 Mag Fed 125-GR JHP leading the way in revolvers. I'm not knocking the 9mm but a smaller grain bullet is recommended in self defense. My information shows a COR-BON 115-GR JHP+P with the best "One Shot Stopping Power" (91%).
I think we both agree that stitching up the seams (mid-section, 2 in the chest, and one in the head) will take care of business with either gun.
To: rudy45
To: Safetgiver
Who covers security companies?
To: NJ Freeper
Pizza Hut has a policy...No guns for employees! Therefore this employee was not following company policy. He should have been fired.
To: The Sons of Liberty
I called the main number just now (because my cell plan gives me free weekend minutes). The number is
502-874-8300
During off hours, you will get the recorded message. When you do, press *8 then *2 to dial by name. Mr. Novak, the CEO, is unreachable. However, their "chief people officer"
Anne Byerlein IS reachable. I just left her a message.
94
posted on
05/22/2004 10:38:58 AM PDT
by
rudy45
To: NJ Freeper
Honeycutt, who has a valid license to carry a firearm, said he planned to buy another handgun Why, won't the police return his? If there was any justice (but TANJ!) He'd be awarded the robber's gun for the public service of cleaning up the gene pool.
95
posted on
05/22/2004 11:41:46 AM PDT
by
El Gato
(Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
To: LetsRok
If he didn't get fired the company would have to allow all employees the ability to register for a carry permit. Sounds like "Good Thing" to me.
96
posted on
05/22/2004 11:42:52 AM PDT
by
El Gato
(Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
To: Onelifetogive
If Pizza Hut knowingly allows delivery people to pack heat, they are open to law suits. They are open to them anyway, from the survivors of deliverymen (and women!) killed because they were unarmed. It's already happened many times. If they would allow carry only by individuals licensed by the state they'd probably be able to shift any liability to the state. They'd then only have a problem in those few states who obey the federal and their own state's Constitutions and do not infringe upon the right to keep and bear arms.
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posted on
05/22/2004 11:46:08 AM PDT
by
El Gato
(Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
To: NJ Freeper
"The guy literally stood there the whole time with his arm up," Honeycutt said. "The whole time, I'm popping off rounds ... (and) the guy's still standing there after 15 rounds went off in him."Time to get a .45
98
posted on
05/22/2004 11:46:51 AM PDT
by
Joe Hadenuf
(I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
To: Onelifetogive
If Pizza Hut knowingly allows delivery people to pack heat, they are open to law suits. In other words, they don't give a sh*t about the lives of their employees, and are more concerned about the bottom line.
99
posted on
05/22/2004 11:49:00 AM PDT
by
Joe Hadenuf
(I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
To: Crazieman
I buy from Pizza hut all the freaking time. No moreI agree. There are other places to buy pizza and that's what we plan to do.
100
posted on
05/22/2004 11:50:20 AM PDT
by
Joe Hadenuf
(I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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