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State has no records of Berg's firm (Nick Berg)
The Daily Local ^ | 05/14/2004 | JONATHAN TULEYA

Posted on 05/14/2004 3:43:32 AM PDT by calcowgirl

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To: MiniCooperChick
The 9-11 terrorists knew enough to fly planes but they were still bad guys.

Anyone can fly a plane. Its landing them that separates the amatuers from the pros.

Berg was a pro. He didn't learn how to be a radio engineer and climb 1000 foot towers so that he could be a martyr for Allah.

His father may be a flake and a traitor, but that doesn't mean he held those views. There is a long paper trail on Michael Berg as an anti-American whack job, but there is no such paper trail on Nick Berg. Its not that we have to give Nick Berg the benefit of the doubt. Right now there is nothing to doubt.

You show me the evidence that Nick Berg was an Al Queida supporter or that he was a secret Islamic Fundamentalist and then there might be something there to doubt. Where is the evidence that he was anything other than what he said he was... A Broadcast Professional?

421 posted on 05/14/2004 4:58:56 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Free the GRPL3)
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To: luckystarmom

Tom Hammill didn't have a beard...he looked TOTALLY American.


422 posted on 05/14/2004 5:13:38 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience. DCN)
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To: P-Marlowe

Exactly


423 posted on 05/14/2004 5:14:47 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: P-Marlowe
What if he was Intercepting our radio signals in Iraq?? There were many references about some of the convoy attackers seemed to have advance information.

What if he wanted to install his low level radio signals to do anti-American propaganda?

He went to Iraq twice....Uganda....Iran....he mentioned in his e-mail that the FBI asked he went to Iran.

If you haven't read thgis entire thread, you should. His FATHER said he was Al Qeada's Best Friend....not the Iraqi people, but Al Qeada!!!!

424 posted on 05/14/2004 5:37:44 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience. DCN)
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To: Skywalk
I don't think all of us are trying to &quotsmear on.&quotMost of us are just trying to get the facts.

I agree that the business appears legit - but not so legit to be totally professional. It wasn't incorporated or registered to do business in Pennsylvania. Its revenues were relatively small, and not in line with the outrageous $70,000 per week number bandied about on other threads. $70,000 per year is more like it. I'd say this makes it look less like a CIA or Mossad front and more like what it probably is - a struggling small business owned by a techie who didn't hire a lawyer. The simplest explanations are usually correct.

The other info here has been interesting, but inconclusive. I don't see any link between Prometheus Radio and Nick's company. Just because his dad is proud ANSWER member and Prometheus Radio is full of libs doesn't mean the son worked for the radio company. The Norman, Oklahoma angle has been interesting but inconclusive. The book found in the hotel may or may not be the anti-semetic book discussed elsewhere.

Right now, I see no definitive proof of any Al Queda links. But I'm willing to keep an open mind.
425 posted on 05/14/2004 5:41:42 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: All
I mentioned this on a previous thread yesterday...

I just happen to be reading a book entitled " The PROMETHEUS Deception" by Robert Ludlum. (2000)

It is a thrilling spy novel where the main character NICK BRYSON was working for an ultra-secret intelligence agency based in the U.S. called the Directorate, BUT which may have really been an agency acting against the U.S. (possibly out of Russia)-- BUT this was unbeknownst to Nick Bryson at the time he was in the group.

Years later, NICK is recruited by the CIA (??) to infiltrate this same group which is now called PROMETHEUS that may turn out now to be a multinational terrorist conspiracy group. The group is sponsoring terror so that the world will have need of its communication/satellite equipment.

Just thought it odd to run into PROMETHEUS twice this week!! (tinfoil off).

426 posted on 05/14/2004 5:45:48 PM PDT by CharlotteVRWC
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To: Skywalk

A picture does not credibility make.


427 posted on 05/14/2004 5:49:50 PM PDT by justanotherday
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To: Landru; bonfire; Ann Archy
Fox and others keep reporting this but it makes no sense time-wise.

Ashcroft says that what happened was that Berg's OLD e-mail account was used by a suspected acquaintance of Moussaoui 2 years after Berg left Oklahoma. Berg was there in 1999, Maussaoui wasn't even in America til 2001.

See here.

an e-mail address traced to him was used by an unidentified person believed acquainted with Zacarias Moussaoui,

an e-mail address once used by Berg apparently was obtained by the Moussaoui acquaintances while Berg was briefly an engineering student at the University of Oklahoma in 1999

Moussaoui came to the United States in February 2001 and enrolled at a flight school in Norman, Okla., also the home of the university.

Ashcroft told reporters there is no evidence that Berg knew Moussaoui or any of Moussaoui's contacts in Oklahoma.

428 posted on 05/14/2004 5:59:17 PM PDT by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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To: Travis McGee

"Oh boy" ping... lol


429 posted on 05/14/2004 6:04:54 PM PDT by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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To: Mo1

You are right -- only union labor! This whole deal makes less and less sense including Ashcroft saying he wasn't connected to any terrorists. It has been stated here he was involved with the Arab group that Moussaoui was and he stayed in Norman after not returning to school in the spring.

That guy was no conservative -- conservatives at OU do not pal around with the Islamic society and you can take that to the bank!


430 posted on 05/14/2004 6:35:09 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04 -- Losing is not an Option!)
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To: PhiKapMom; All
This whole deal makes less and less sense including Ashcroft saying he wasn't connected to any terrorists. It has been stated here he was involved with the Arab group that Moussaoui was and he stayed in Norman after not returning to school in the spring.

I really hate to say this, but...was he deeply involved with the Islamofascists, went to Iraq, got "Sheep Dipped" in Mosul by riding around in a Taxi with a Koran...and then, WHAT??? Double, Triple, Quintouple AGENT???

Something mighty NON-KOSHER [or Halal, for that matter!!]

431 posted on 05/14/2004 6:42:08 PM PDT by Lael (Patent Law...not a single Supreme Court Justice is qualified to take the PTO Bar Exam!)
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To: Lael

Not sure that we will ever know what happened. No one deserves to be killed the way he was. Today I even found out that some people said Moussaoui was here earlier and then left and returned to Norman so who knows. Rumors are everywhere.


432 posted on 05/14/2004 6:47:22 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04 -- Losing is not an Option!)
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To: livius

"Did you notice, also, that when Nick Berg was describing his arrest, he quoted from that stupid 1960's song, Alice's Restaurant?"

No...what was the quote?


433 posted on 05/14/2004 6:52:36 PM PDT by SerpentDove (Pardon me while I indulge in a little Frankenfreude.)
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To: PhiKapMom
This whole deal makes less and less sense including Ashcroft saying he wasn't connected to any terrorists.

That could mean anything .. If there is no hard evidence, Ashcroft isn't going to come out and say he was connected. But at the same time it doesn't mean he wasn't friendly with them

434 posted on 05/14/2004 6:53:05 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: conservative in nyc

Prometheus Radio Project is headquartered in Philly. Its leader, Dylan Wrynn (aka "Pete Tri Dish") is a revolutionary figure who once beamed an illegal FM signal right into the FCC offices in DC. Wrynn is not only an active member of ANSWER operations in Philly, he's also been a featured speaker at the number of their events. It would surprise me if Wrynn and Mike Berg were not previously acquainted.


435 posted on 05/14/2004 6:55:01 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
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To: calcowgirl

Absolutely nothing about this Berg guy adds up.


436 posted on 05/14/2004 6:55:26 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: Mo1

Very true -- wonder if there is an active investigation going on with all of this?


437 posted on 05/14/2004 6:57:25 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04 -- Losing is not an Option!)
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To: PhiKapMom

I'm sure if there isn't .. they did have one done previously

He may not be directly connected .. but he could be friendly with them .. and in a court of law .. being friends with someone (even a terrorists) isn't necessarily illegal


438 posted on 05/14/2004 7:00:05 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Pres Raygun

Real name Dylan Wrynn, B. 1971, Brooklyn, NYC, NY. Long time known radical with a national activity pattern. Committed an RF attack on FCC offices in DC but was never prosecuted or punished for it (done during Clinton years). Has been written about in many Leftist free urban rags, Mother Jones and the Ford Foundation web site. And on and on it goes...


439 posted on 05/14/2004 7:08:16 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
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To: Mo1

I agree.

I was close friends with the Iranians in my last neighborhood. We had other things in common.

I am very close to a Jew who loves sharing stories about all the days he spent hanging out with the Palestinian group in collge. They debated Israel, didn't agree on much of anything, he was a conservative, but he is brilliant and curious and still likes that sort of socializing.

As I said earlier, if the best we can come up with is that
he lent his laptop to someone to send an e-mail who two years later becomes an aquaintance of Moussaoui,
named his company one of the most common company names out there (that fits his company's objective),
and happened to spend friendly time with the Arabs...

It's not a strong enough case yet for me to risk wrongly trashing his memory.


440 posted on 05/14/2004 7:17:17 PM PDT by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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