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To: familyop
It does not surprise me at all that Tennessee police called them "Israelis" to the media. When's their next KKK meeting, BTW? Or do they have to return to their group home after work? ...idiots. People won't know who they're really talking about unless they say, even in Tennessean, "Ayrabs."

Shmuel Dahan and Almaliach Naor, both from Israel,

Given how they have already charged them with giving false names, it is likely that the above names released by the authorities are their actual names. I dunno, how many Palestians are named Shmuel?

So it appears you are the one rushing to wrong conclusions based on stereotypes, and now come off looking like an idiot. But do you have the guts to apologize to the Southerners and police who you accused of being incompetent racists?

35 posted on 05/09/2004 4:20:56 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Shmuel Dahan

A search of his name shows him to be a Likud party spokesman, if it is the same Schmuel Dahan.
42 posted on 05/09/2004 4:27:35 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Diddle E. Squat
This is getting very strange. Shmuel Dahan is the name of a well known Israeli, the sopkesman for the Likud Party.

Any bets these are phony names for two Islamics?
47 posted on 05/09/2004 4:35:56 PM PDT by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, news first, fast, 5 minutes sooner, stay tuned to FReeper Radio!)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
A Google search pulls up Shmuel Dahan as a Likud Party spokesman.

Of course, Shmuel Dahan could be as common in Israel as Bob Johnson is here.

59 posted on 05/09/2004 4:48:38 PM PDT by FReepaholic (War On Terror: If not us, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Ditto.
64 posted on 05/09/2004 4:54:14 PM PDT by Endeavor (Don't count your Hatch before it chickens)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Remember this one? There were many of these in the time frame about 9-11

http://www.zwire.com/site/mercury_101801.html
The Mercury
2 found with video of Sears Tower

MICHELLE MOWAD, Special to The Mercury October 17, 2001

PLYMOUTH -- Two men whom police described as Middle Eastern were detained in the township by federal immigration authorities after being found with detailed video footage of the Sears Tower in Chicago.
Plymouth Police encountered the men after an officer responded to Pizzeria Uno on the 1000 block of West Ridge Pike at 2:40 p.m. Thursday for a report of illegal dumping, according to reports.

A manager there advised the police officer that a tractor-trailer was observed backed up to the Dumpster at the rear of the restaurant. The manager noticed a freshly dumped pile of furniture adjacent to the Dumpster, according to police.

The manager confronted the vehicle's operator, a Middle Eastern man, police said.

The man, who later identified himself as Moshe Elmakias, 30, denied that he did anything and fled the scene, heading west on West Ridge Pike, according to police.

The manager was able to provide township police with the Florida registration number of the tractor-trailer and said that a sign posted on the side of the vehicle read "Moving Systems Incorporated" and included a phone number, police said.

The area was searched by township police, and the vehicle was spotted parked on the curb in front of John Kennedy Ford on Ridge Pike, just west of Industrial Way.

An officer proceeded to make contact with the occupants of the truck by knocking on the cab, according to reports.

A Middle Eastern man, later identified as Ron Katar, 23, exited the sleeper area of the cab and said that the operator was across the street as he pointed toward the Don Rosen Porsche dealer, reports said.

Elmakias and a white female, Ayelet Reisler, 23, were approaching the vehicle from the dealership, but the female then began walking in a different direction, acting as if she were not with Elmakias, according to reports.

Reisler was detained and checked for identification. She had a German passport in her name and medication in a different name, police said.

Plymouth Police Sgt. Thomas Longo was notified and responded to the incident.

Elmakias allegedly admitted to being behind Pizzeria Uno, although he said that he did not dump furniture, he was only turning around.

Elmakias said that his destination was New York and that he was also coming from New York. He said he was in Plymouth because he was supposed to make a pickup from a male in the morning and pointed toward the Storage USA facility on Belvoir Road and West Ridge Pike, police said.

Elmakias could not, however, provide a name or telephone number of the customer.

Township police dispatched a request for a Motor Carrier Safety Assistance Program Inspector. Officer Gerald Schwartz of the Whitpain Police Department responded.

Schwartz discovered through his investigation that the operator's log had been falsified and put the truck out of service due to violations, police said. In addition, the vehicle reportedly had numerous equipment violations that rendered the truck unsafe.

Inspection of the tractor-trailer's contents revealed a load three-quarters full containing household items, including furniture and boxes.

Among the items in the truck was a Sony video camera.

Plymouth Police Officer David McCann reviewed the tape found inside the camera. The tape had video footage of Chicago with zoomed-in shots of the Sears Tower, according to police.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation was notified of the incident and all three subjects were transported to the Plymouth Police station.

The subjects were then processed through the National Crime Information Center and placed into detention, according to the report.

FBI Agents James Sweeney and Richard Tofani arrived at the station and proceeded to investigate both the subjects and their belongings with the assistance of Immigration and Naturalization Services.

Elmakias and Katar were eventually detained by INS and transported to a federal facility, said police. Reisler was released.

All evidence collected by Plymouth and Whitpain officers was transferred to federal facilities with the exception of a VCR.

Special Agent Linda Vizi, a spokeswoman for the Philadelphia FBI, could not be contacted for comment on further investigations.

©The Mercury 2001

129 posted on 05/09/2004 5:37:02 PM PDT by mv1 (Mel Gibson: Braveheart, The Patriot, The Passion of the Christ)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
If they did pick false names they weren't very original. Shmuel Dahan is the Likud party spokesman; consequently very well known. I did not get any google hits for the name Almaliach Naor although Naor is a Jewish name.
172 posted on 05/09/2004 6:04:54 PM PDT by Oorang ( Much work remains to be done before we can announce our total failure to make any progress)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
"Given how they have already charged them with giving false names, it is likely that the above names released by the authorities are their actual names. I dunno, how many Palestians are named Shmuel?"

...all of 'em, when it suits their purpose.

"So it appears you are the one rushing to wrong conclusions based on stereotypes, and now come off looking like an idiot. But do you have the guts to apologize to the Southerners and police who you accused of being incompetent racists?"

Show me proof that those were Jewish terrorists, and I will apologize. I'll be watching for anything you can forward in private messages on reports of this story, too. The word, "Israeli" might be correct in describing the citizenship of a lot of radical Islamists, but it misleads most of the public here to think they were Jews.

And on some of the other replies,...

As for apologies for all of the sideways threats tossed my way in the other replies, the rest of you don't bother. I'm not vain enough to care about that kind of talk. And you all proved a point.

After helping three public officials to get dismissed from their jobs very near there almost ten years ago (and staying for three more years just to see that their officious friends talked to the same agencies), I left that area of highways flanked by Rebel flags for good. ...don't visit my relatives who, thanks to propaganda in their area, hate "Yankees" so much that they don't even want to see their own brother from the West, but I visit or live where I like, anywhere in the USA, opinions and all.

Amendment I - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

I don't care about talk or anyone ruining public relations for their own state. But for your sakes, don't ever carry out any physical reprisal against anyone (even someone en pauperis) for complaining about your state, people in general, or region. The penalties can be severe.

And if you want to complain at me for a tactical or historical error on my part with plain, angry rhetoric, do so in private messages.
331 posted on 05/09/2004 9:36:05 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
In Prohibition, it was Al Capone in Chicago, ILL ( I believe that is North) who made lots of money on moonshine, it isn't just a southern product.
You might want to consider that the police in TN actually stopped and detained them, as opposed to the people working in the Airports where the terrorists boarded the airplane and hit the towers. I am a Southerner and a Native of NC, I have lived up north for a total of 18 yrs, PLEASE stop trying to divide America by North and South. There are intelligent and stupid people in all of USA.
480 posted on 05/11/2004 7:40:12 PM PDT by Kackikat
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