Mr. Kerry's campaign has done more than contradict itself. It has been in full coverup mode. < -snip- > The story is unlikely to go away completely. Last week Gerald Nicosia, the historian who first uncovered evidence the FBI tailed Mr. Kerry back in 1971, reported to police that three of the 14 boxes of the FBI files he obtained under the Freedom of Information Act were stolen from his California home and that other individual files from the remaining 11 boxes were also swiped, including documents about Mr. Kerry that Mr. Nicosia hadn't yet reviewed. "Those revelations are lost now, at least to me," Mr. Nicosia told the Associated Press. Someone, either friend or foe of Mr. Kerry, apparently knew what he was looking for.
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To: Sabertooth
This is starting to perculate.
2 posted on
03/28/2004 10:37:47 PM PST by
Texasforever
(I can’t kill enough brain cells to become a democrat just by drinking.)
To: Hon; Victoria Delsoul; doug from upland; OXENinFLA; Torie; VadeRetro; Hillary's Lovely Legs; ...
FYI
(let me know if you want on or off my VVAW ping list.)
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3 posted on
03/28/2004 10:38:30 PM PST by
Sabertooth
(< /Kerry>)
To: Sabertooth
Nontice now that they're coming out with a sex scandal again- anything to distract people from this VVAW thing? They can then harp on "it's all about sex" while avoiding the more important topic altogether.
4 posted on
03/28/2004 10:39:40 PM PST by
piasa
(Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
To: Sabertooth
BUMP for the Wall Street Journal.
5 posted on
03/28/2004 10:41:00 PM PST by
GeronL
(www.armorforcongress.com..... put a FReeper in Congress)
To: Sabertooth
This stuff needs to be investigated, collated and used as an October surprise, with it all coming out in one HUGE document drop.
It would be the height of stupidity to get it out now, or prior to the Dem Convention. And no one is going to be paying all that much attention ( except news junkies like us) until after Labor Day.
8 posted on
03/28/2004 10:48:19 PM PST by
nopardons
To: Sabertooth
They finally did it. A few days ago, I sent this info to a WSJ reporter with whom I have had contact. Too bad he couldn't talk about it on Drudge tonight.
10 posted on
03/28/2004 10:49:46 PM PST by
doug from upland
(Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
To: Sabertooth
But he has "misremembered" a lot of key facts about the period.Bump
14 posted on
03/28/2004 10:53:44 PM PST by
PRND21
To: Sabertooth
Sabertooth, Thanks for keeping me informed. I'm rarely in a position to return the favor, yet you keep pinging me to the important stuff. I appreciate it, and will return the favor when I'm able.
15 posted on
03/28/2004 10:53:48 PM PST by
BykrBayb
(I'm going to steal my next tagline from someone's post.)
To: Sabertooth
Wall Street Journal, eh?
I KNEW this story had legs.
And now, those legs are getting longer and stronger.
;-D
19 posted on
03/28/2004 10:58:34 PM PST by
Judith Anne
(Is life a paradox? Well, yes and no...)
To: All
Radical Veteran Has Ties To Kerry [Camil... The 'Real Deal']
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Posted by johnny7 On 03/27/2004 4:14:39 AM PST with 12 comments
The Ledger ^ | Saturday, March 27, 2004 | BOB ARNDORFER Gainesville man stood trial as 1970s anti-war activist.GAINESVILLE -- ABC's "World News Tonight" hadn't finished before Gainesville resident Scott Camil's phone started ringing. Friends were calling to see if he had seen a Monday evening report about newly disclosed information that the FBI had kept tabs on Sen. John Kerry during his anti-war days in the early 1970s. The report included a passing reference to and a circa-1973 photo of Camil, who had met Kerry at national meetings of Vietnam Veterans Against the War. Citing Gerald Nicosia's 2001 book, "Home to War," the ABC report said that at a national...
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Pro-Kerry Historian: Kerry Lies About Anti-war Activities
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Posted by areafiftyone On 03/18/2004 6:35:35 AM PST with 5 comments
Newsmax ^ | 3/18/04 A Vietnam War historian and supporter of Democrat presidential candidate John Kerry has told CNSNews.com that Kerry is lying about key events related to his anti-war activities in 1971. Kerry said he hasn't spoken to former anti-war associate Al Hubbard since the two men appeared side by side on national television in April 1971, but according to author Gerald Nicosia, that assertion is wrong. So is Kerry's insistence that he did not attend a November 1971 meeting of Vietnam Veterans Against the War, at which group members discussed the possibility of assassinating U.S. senators who were still supporting the war...
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Kerry Lying About Anti-War Past, Supporter Alleges
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Posted by kattracks On 03/18/2004 2:58:03 AM PST with 114 comments
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 3/18/04 | Marc Morano (CNSNews.com) - A Vietnam War historian and supporter of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry has told CNSNews.com that Kerry is lying about key events related to his anti-war activities in 1971. Kerry said he hasn't spoken to former anti-war associate Al Hubbard since the two men appeared side by side on national television in April 1971, but according to author Gerald Nicosia, that assertion is wrong. So is Kerry's insistence that he did not attend a November 1971 meeting of Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), at which group members discussed the possibility of assassinating U.S. senators who were still...
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KERRY RETREATS FROM HIS DENIAL ON VIETNAM MEET - Evidence Puts Him At Kansas Parley
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Posted by kennedy On 03/19/2004 9:07:07 AM PST with 422 comments
New York Sun ^ | Mar 19, 2004 | JOSH GERSTEIN MILL VALLEY, Calif. Senator Kerry of Massachusetts yesterday retreated from his earlier steadfast denials that he attended a meeting of Vietnam Veterans Against the War at which a plan to assassinate U.S. Senators was debated. The reversal came as new evidence, including reports from FBI informants, emerged that contradicted Mr. Kerrys previous statements about the gathering, which was held in Kansas City, Mo. in November 1971. John Kerry had no personal recollection of this meeting 33 years ago, a Kerry campaign spokesman, David Wade, said in a statement e-mailed last night from Idaho, where Mr. Kerry is on vacation....
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Kerry hedges on 1971 KC meeting [for assassination plot]
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Posted by nwrep On 03/19/2004 8:38:34 PM PST with 72 comments
Knight Ridder ^ | March 19, 2004 | SCOTT CANON KANSAS CITY - (KRT) - Confronted with 32-year-old FBI records, Sen. John Kerry's campaign all but conceded he attended a 1971 Kansas City meeting where a fellow anti-war veteran called for political assassinations. Those active in Vietnam Veterans Against the War at the time stress that the suggestion for such a violent approach was angrily rejected. They say their memories do not include Kerry taking part in the radical discussion. A statement Thursday by Kerry's camp said the Massachusetts Democrat did not recall the meeting, although FBI surveillance material and the group's archives clearly show that Kerry resigned from his...
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CNN: Documents reveal FBI surveillance of Kerry in early 1970s
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Posted by Oldeconomybuyer On 03/23/2004 5:18:04 AM PST with 52 comments
CNN ^ | 3-23-04 | From Phil Hirschkorn NEW YORK (CNN) -- John Kerry's combat experience in Vietnam is central to his bid to become the next commander-in-chief, but Kerry's outspoken opposition to that war drew the personal attention of the president of the United States and FBI agents 33 years ago, documents reviewed by CNN reveal. After Kerry became the national spokesman of Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) in 1971, he came under continued surveillance by the FBI, which filed thousands of pages of reports on the VVAW and Kerry himself. It was Kerry, the articulate Yale graduate and Navy lieutenant with three Purple Hearts for...
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The VVAW Assassination Discussion - "A lot of people were convinced that this was the way to do it."
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Posted by Hon On 03/24/2004 7:43:30 PM PST with 58 comments
March 25, 2004 | Compiled Sometime during a national meeting of the Vietnam Veterans Against The War (VVAW) held November 12-14, 1971 there was an intense "discussion" and vote on a plan offered by Scott Camil to assassinate top Congressional leaders who had voted to continue funding the war in Vietnam. There has been much discussion here and some in the media of this topic. The details are getting confused, and few people have seen any of the original source material. I first came upon the subject in early February when I was looking for information about Kerry in "Winter Soldiers," by Richard Staciewicz. The...
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FBI Papers on Kerry Stolen from Author
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Posted by rogueleader On 03/28/2004 12:00:14 AM PST with 9 comments
KCBS-740 AM ^ | Mar 27, 2004 | Sue McGuire (KCBS)--A North Bay man who had uncovered evidence the FBI (news - web sites) tailed presidential candidate John Kerry (news - web sites) for months in 1971 says some of the files were stolen this week. Author Gerald Nicosia told police Friday that three of fourteen boxes of once secret FBI files he obtained through the Freedom of Information Act were taken from his Corte Madera home some time Thursday. He says investigators do not have much hope in finding the missing files. "They said it would be almost impossible to try to track fingerprints because we did have CNN...
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FBI Papers on Kerry Stolen from Marin County Author
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Posted by NYC Republican On 03/27/2004 6:44:41 PM PST with 16 comments
KPIX/KCBS/Yahoo News ^ | 3/26/04 | Sue McGuire North Bay man who had uncovered evidence the FBI (news - web sites) tailed presidential candidate John Kerry (news - web sites) for months in 1971 says some of the files were stolen this week. Author Gerald Nicosia told police Friday that three of fourteen boxes of once secret FBI files he obtained through the Freedom of Information Act were taken from his Corte Madera home some time Thursday. He says investigators do not have much hope in finding the missing files. "They said it would be almost impossible to try to track fingerprints because we did have CNN people...
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Documents on FBI's surveillance of Kerry stolen (New Nicosia spin - GOP Coverup for Nixon?)
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Posted by Sabertooth On 03/28/2004 5:55:37 AM PST with 51 comments
CNN ^ | March 28th, 2004 Documents on FBI's surveillance of Kerry stolen Historian: 'Odds are in favor' of political motive in theft A decorated veteran, John Kerry became a spokesman for Vietnam Veterans Against the War. Story Tools RELATED Documents reveal FBI surveillance of Kerry in early 1970s YOUR E-MAIL ALERTS Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Vietnam John F. Kerry Richard Milhous Nixon or Create your own Manage alerts | (CNN) -- FBI documents detailing government surveillance of John Kerry in the early 1970s have been stolen from the home of a historian in a suburb of San Francisco, California.Gerald Nicosia, who spent more than...
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Author Reports Theft of Some of Kerry's FBI Files (New Info - New Spin)
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Posted by Sabertooth On 03/27/2004 8:47:20 AM PST with 78 comments
L.A. Times ^ | March 27th, 2004 | John Gilonna Nicosia said he suspected that the thieves were specifically in pursuit of the files because a camera and other expensive items in the home were left untouched. He added that he did not know exactly what material was taken because it was not cataloged or marked. Three of 14 boxes of files that had been stacked in his kitchen are missing. He said he was moving the remaining documents to a secure location Friday afternoon. Nicosia has not yet looked at all the files. Last week he allowed The Times to photocopy 50 pages concerning the FBI's monitoring of Kerry...
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20 posted on
03/28/2004 11:03:16 PM PST by
Sabertooth
(< /Kerry>)
To: Sabertooth
YeSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
SO glad this is growing. I don't care as much about campaign strategy as for the need for truth to worm its way up through the moldy past of John F'n Kerry.
Thank you, WSJ!
32 posted on
03/28/2004 11:24:11 PM PST by
Yaelle
To: Sabertooth
Is it just me, or is participating in a vote to assassinate Senators a really bad thing?
Why isn't Kerry in jail?
39 posted on
03/29/2004 1:14:17 AM PST by
highlander_UW
("Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Benjamin Franklin)
To: Sabertooth
Bbbut! He was for the Vietnam War before he was against it. It's a nuanced thing.
40 posted on
03/29/2004 1:22:51 AM PST by
AmericanVictory
(Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
To: Sabertooth
Bbbut! He was for the Vietnam War before he was against it. It's a nuanced thing.
41 posted on
03/29/2004 1:23:01 AM PST by
AmericanVictory
(Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
To: Sabertooth
BTTT
To: Sabertooth
Mr. Kerry told a Boston radio station the whole story was "such ancient history." It was time to move on. And yet Ketchup Boy keeps bringing up his Vietnam War record which is even MORE ancient.
48 posted on
03/29/2004 3:48:52 AM PST by
PJ-Comix
(Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
To: Sabertooth
I'll bet fifty cents that John Kerry's "shoulder operation" is timed to coincide with this article.
This is one of the most carefully crafted articles I've ever read. There's nothing new in it, but it has a polish to it that indicates it has been written and rewritten many times. Probably subjected to numerous rounds of fact checking.
It can be no secret that this was coming out, and the timing coincides with the C-Span broadcast of Kerry's 1971 debate on the Dick Cavet Show.
People sneer at Newsmax and the New York Sun, but now the story has been released by the newspaper of record. (the real newspaper of record)
50 posted on
03/29/2004 4:27:03 AM PST by
js1138
To: Sabertooth
FBI files he obtained under the Freedom of Information Act FOI requesters get photo copies not originals.
51 posted on
03/29/2004 4:40:19 AM PST by
ASA Vet
("Anyone who signed up after 11/28/97 is a newbie")
To: Sabertooth
btt
52 posted on
03/29/2004 5:00:38 AM PST by
GailA
(Kerry I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, but I'll declare a moratorium on the death penalty)
To: Sabertooth
Thank you for posting this. Kerry needs to be pursued about this...
54 posted on
03/29/2004 5:56:54 AM PST by
IPWGOP
('tooning the truth)
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