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To: sakic
The disparity I am refering to, is the disparity between the rave reviews of "the passion" by non-Christians who thought it was a master-piece and the reviews of this Lady and a few others that thought it was the worst movie ever.

It is a little hard for many to believe that there was no political or religious bias interfering with their reviews when they say it is so horrible and bad, because it is so at odds with other reviewers.

Another way to put it, I have never seen a movie where Ebert and Roeper, or Ebert and Siskel raved so much about how good a movie was, only to have other reviewers think it was completely dreadful. Maybe you can show me an example. Has there been another movie where Ebert and his partner have both given the movie 4 stars and other reviewers have given it a one star?

I tend to think it would be a rare case indeed where there was such a huge divergence, both in stars and in the descriptions. Which says to me, that some people are letting their political or religious bias interfere with their reviews. This is what I believe most people are upset at.
108 posted on 02/29/2004 9:17:01 AM PST by GROOVY
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To: GROOVY
The disparity I am refering to, is the disparity between the rave reviews of "the passion" by non-Christians who thought it was a master-piece and the reviews of this Lady and a few others that thought it was the worst movie ever.

This disparity happens with every single movie, religious subject or not.

It is a little hard for many to believe that there was no political or religious bias interfering with their reviews when they say it is so horrible and bad, because it is so at odds with other reviewers.

Of course there was a bias by some reviewers against this film. What troubles me is that most here don't consider the religious bias affecting other reviewers into giving good reviews. Bias is in all of us. It's not a one way street.

Another way to put it, I have never seen a movie where Ebert and Roeper, or Ebert and Siskel raved so much about how good a movie was, only to have other reviewers think it was completely dreadful.

Then you might want to read more reviews because that is just flat out wrong.

Maybe you can show me an example. Has there been another movie where Ebert and his partner have both given the movie 4 stars and other reviewers have given it a one star?

One Example Of Reviews All Over the Place

By the way, This is probably a good place to investigate your question.

134 posted on 02/29/2004 9:37:19 AM PST by sakic
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To: GROOVY
I tend to think it would be a rare case indeed where there was such a huge divergence, both in stars and in the descriptions. Which says to me, that some people are letting their political or religious bias interfere with their reviews. This is what I believe most people are upset at.

Exactly. You give a 1 star review to movies that have no redeeming value. Even "Birth of A Nation" or "Triumph of the Will" still get praise for their unique artistic aspects and for pioneering despite the widespread dismissal of their content.

This movie on the other hand gets a 1-star despite the fact that it is obviously a very artistic movie that is skillfully made. It gets a 1-star despite the fact that it is pioneering in several ways. Many reviewers acknowledge these things and give the movie credit for these things despite a) being non-Christian, b) not liking the content. The movie might get a lesser rating from them due to its content/screenply but they are not dismissing the film out of hand.

Those reviewers who do not care for the content yet fairly treat the movie as a whole are professional critics of art.

Those who trash all aspects of the movie because they don't like the content are spinners spinning for political reasons or to ingratiate themselves with a political agenda. These types have overplayed their hands. They would have been better off killing this movie with faint praise rather than stirring up the ****storm they did.
135 posted on 02/29/2004 9:38:08 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: GROOVY
Empire Strikes Back got 4 stars from both Siskel and Ebert.

Here is Vincent Canby's Review

148 posted on 02/29/2004 9:48:10 AM PST by sakic
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