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To: Dan Evans
We should be allowed to have Jewish schools or Christian schools or all-black schools or all-white schools if people want. And, no, the government shouldn't give them money (I don't think we need government support of schools at all).

Again you're mixign up two things -- religion and the idea of race. Sure, have a Christian, Muslim, Budhhist, Jewish school to teach the faith if you're willing to pay for it. Someone want sot attend a Jewish school? Convert. Then you say all-black schools. suppose a White guy wants to join? Can he convert? Can he use boot polish? Hah!

That's cutting off people on thigns they can't change.
Let's have a school where only people 5'8" and above are allowed. Dwarves are not allowed -- they're only good for wrestling and for being mocked at in amusement fairs. Discriminatory? H*** yeah! How can you discriminate against a person based on somethign they cannot change? A person who short can't change that fact about themselves. A person who's white can't make himself black. THey can try to be the best in their field even if it is dominated by people of a different type -- Murphy whatever in basketball or even the few white players in the NBA.
318 posted on 02/14/2004 10:29:44 AM PST by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: Cronos
Ever get the feeling that liberals aren't the only one want racial issues/political concept to disappear? I sure do, esp. after reading this thread.
323 posted on 02/14/2004 10:49:52 AM PST by cyborg
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To: Cronos

Let's have a school where only people 5'8" and above are allowed. Dwarves are not allowed ...how can you discriminate against a person based on somethign they cannot change?

We do it all the time for very good reasons and sometimes for bad reasons. The US Air Force discriminates against pilot applicants on the basis of height (they have to fit in the cockpit). The army doesn't allow women into combat units on the front lines. Schools require certain mental standards of applicants (you can't change your IQ -- no you can't, not for long). Strip clubs only hire beautiful women as dancers and large intimidating men as bouncers. There are a lot of jobs that require good vision. (Do they have to change the job to accommodate the blind?) Men are not allowed to supervise living quarters of Girl Scout camps.

But answer this question, Cronos: If you wish to make racial discrimination in the private sector a crime, how do you enforce it? Racial quotas? Forbidding IQ tests? How do prove that a person is discriminating by race? I don't think there is any good way to do that in a free society. And I don't want the courts deciding whether or not a person's decision to discriminate is valid or not. I don't want the courts telling us we have to have homosexuals bunking with boy scouts.

The price of freedom is failure. If a businessman discriminates for bad reasons the market will punish him and he will fail.

328 posted on 02/14/2004 2:17:18 PM PST by Dan Evans
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