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To: Cronos

Correct, but that freedom does not include the freedom to fire someone or not hire someone just because of their appearances.

Why not? The 14th Amendment prohibits government from hiring by race but it doesn't prohibit the people from doing it. Why does engaging in commerce nullify your right of free association? Where is the constitutional authority for passing these laws?

Most of the laws you're complaining about are because in the 50s and 60s most white folks would not hire a black even though they may have been the better ones for the job. So, that shattered the myth of opportunity for all, a true meritocracy. Now, things are better.

Before those laws were passed we had a nation where people were free to judge people by merit. But after sliding down that slippery slope our brave new color-blind meritocracy:

Has corporations inquiring of the race of applicants and hiring to racial quotas.

Has universities giving preferences by race to student applicants.

Has the Boy Scouts employing homosexuals to sleep overnight with young boys.

Has judges and politicians gerrymandering voting districts to favor black representatives.

Has had schools busing students halfway across the county to achieve racial diversity.

Has schools encouraging Black pride groups, Hispanic pride groups and homosexual pride groups (but start a white, heterosexual pride group and you get hammered). We weren't like that in the 1950's.

I don't think things are better when people are afraid to fire an incompetent employee who happens to be a protected minority. I don't think we have better doctors when the doctor was admitted to medical school because of his race instead of his competence. City services are not better when the contracts are awarded because the contractor is black instead of being a competent company. We are less of a meritocracy than we were before.

People can better themselves if they work hard and have the intelligence. Are those laws still useful? Debatable. In most parts of the country people are coloblind, but there are people who are not.

I have a suggestion. Get rid of those laws and see what happens. If bigots are hiring based on race and not by merit, then those bigots will not be able to compete with the good people who are hiring competent employees. The problem solves itself.

280 posted on 02/12/2004 11:24:28 AM PST by Dan Evans
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To: Dan Evans
 If the black population in the US becomes greater than 50% does that mean that our black racial warlords are then like Hitler but not before?

Yes, that is correct.    until they become a majority oppressing a minority you cannot compare them to the Nazis.  You can compare Mugabe's goons to the Nazis for the same reason. 

 Correct, but that freedom does not include the freedom to fire someone or not hire someone just because of their appearances.

Why not? The 14th Amendment prohibits government from hiring by race but it doesn't prohibit the people from doing it. Why does engaging in commerce nullify your right of free association? Where is the constitutional authority for passing these laws?

So, you want to stop hiring a person just because he's black and you want blacks to stop hire whites?

Before those laws were passed we had a nation where people were free to judge people by merit. But after sliding down that slippery slope our brave new color-blind meritocracy:

BEfore those laws were passed, blacks were legally disbarred from entering places where whites were.  They were not allowed to hold jobs because of their skin color.

Do you think that was correct?  and good?

Has schools encouraging Black pride groups, Hispanic pride groups and homosexual pride groups (but start a white, heterosexual pride group and you get hammered). We weren't like that in the 1950's.

Those groups should be banned.  But in the 1950s there wouldn't have been those groups because blacks and Hispanics would not have been allowed in those schools -- they were segregated.  Unless you think that that is correct.  So that whites should stick together and blacks together etc. etc.

295 posted on 02/13/2004 1:03:19 AM PST by Cronos (W2004!)
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