Message to ?Conservatives

Vanity | Feb. 11, 2004 | Nix Two

[Texasforever]

Your problem? You don't have a clue how big the 'Alan Keyes wing' of the GOP is.

Yep most of the stayed at home in 2000 because Alan lost.

[EternalVigilance]

Yep most of the stayed at home in 2000 because Alan lost.

Liar.

[Texasforever]

Then who were the 4 million religious conservatives that sat out the election?

[EternalVigilance]

If you had your way, they would probably stay home in 04.

Do you work for McAwful?

[EternalVigilance]

Not Keyes people. The Keyes organization turned out millions of votes for the President. How many did you turn out?

[Texasforever]

If you had your way, they would probably stay home in 04.

I fully expect them to sit at home in 2004. They never change.

[Texasforever]

Not Keyes people. The Keyes organization turned out millions of votes for the President. How many did you turn out?

Prove it.

[EternalVigilance]

If you aren't a plant for the DNC, you should be calling them demanding back wages.

[Texasforever]

If you aren't a plant for the DNC, you should be calling them demanding back wages.

Prove to me that the "Alan Keyes" organizations brought out millions of votes for Bush and I will apologize.

[EternalVigilance]

Prove it.

Ask Karl Rove, since you are using him as a source.

As for me, I don't have to prove anything. I was there. I was an eyewitness.

You can reject my testimony because of your anti-conservative bigotry, but it won't change the truth of history.

[Texasforever]

As for me, I don't have to prove anything. I was there. I was an eyewitness.

Then you can't back it up. I really doubt that your were an "eyewitness" to Keyes people turning out millions of votes. Keyes sure wasn't helping.

[EternalVigilance]

Prove to me that the "Alan Keyes" organizations brought out millions of votes for Bush and I will apologize.

I was his political director. I turned them out myself, along with tens of thousands of the best people in America--'Keyes Republicans'.

Not only did they vote, but they worked their asses off.

Keyes Republicans make up the volunteer base of the Republican Party. But you are too biased and too ignorant of facts on the ground to know that, or to learn it from someone who knows.

I will await your apology, and then I will apologize for the tone of my reponses to you.

Nothing makes me madder than to have these people attacked by ignoramuses...because I know the quality of these folks. They are the backbone, the foundation of this country...there are none finer anywhere on this planet.

If people like you drive them from the GOP, it will be like a body without a soul...DEAD....and the country will have to suffer horribly for that meltdown for many years to recover from it.

[Texasforever]

I don't see any proof just your assertion.

[EternalVigilance]

Wouldn't matter. You're so set in your hatred for Keyes, and me, and conservatives, that it wouldn't matter what I said.

But what I said remains true nonetheless.

[Texasforever]

You're so set in your hatred for Keyes, and me, and conservatives, that it wouldn't matter what I said.

I don't hate you or Keyes. I said that 4 million religious conservatives sat out the 2000 race and that group made up the bulk of Keyes' primary support. You said that the Keyes operation, that you headed, got out millions to vote for Bush. If those 4 million that sat at home added to your "millions" then Bush would have had a landslide victory. Something does not add up.

[fly_so_free]

I agree with you about Al Gore handling 9/11=disaster. I don't think he would have had the wherewithal to go after the terrorists. His focus would have been toward the UN and What-did-we-do-to-make-them-so-angry-at-us? This would have had a devastating effect on US morale. Since most of the terrorist suspects would not have been rounded up due to UN negotiations and racial concerns, there would have been MANY more attacks against us.

I'm voting for President Bush first of all, because he is an unapologetic Christian. This matters the most to me.
Second is because he has vowed to protect our nation,( not through the UN.) and he supports our military.
Third he proved himself to be a great leader when we were attacked. If (and probably when) we are attacked again, he is the person I want in charge. I think he is doing the best he can for our nation.

The greatest difference that I can see between those here, who support the President and those who don't , comes down to how big of a threat each side views the democ'RATS as.

Those who are not supporting President Bush view the democ'RATS and Pubbies as equally dangerous to the country. They think a dem president would be as good as Bush at prosecuting the WOT, and protecting the country from another attack. The cost of electing a dem is apparently, not that high to them. They think the country can take another hit from a dem presidency,( in spite of the tremendous damage done by the last 8 years of the previous one).

Those who will vote for Bush this year see the exact opposite of this. They(and I) see the democ'RAT party as the biggest threat we face. They (D's) are far and away more dangerous than the pubbies. Kerry has stated he would turn the Iraq war over the UN. He also stated he doesn't deem terrorism that big of a threat. (What more proof do the anti-bush people need?)

The non-Bush supporters think a pubbie controlled House and Senate will somehow reign in a dem president? Did it work with Clinton? Look at all the trouble the dems are making now, as the minority party (judicial nominees exc..) They are NOT going to follow the rules if they gain the presidency.

Look at the Mass. Supreme Court ruling, on gay marriage. The leftist judges pretty much said "gays will be able to marry legally, weather people like or not-we have spoken". Now take that tactic, multiply it by 1,000 and you have what a dem presidency will be like.

I could name many other reasons why I will be voting for GW this fall. The other one that stands out to me is that , if a 'RAT is elected, they will be in charge of the military. I don't want our soldiers to have to serve under a dem, PERIOD. Also, a they will wreck the War in Iraq,( UN) and all the sacrifice's the military made there will mean nothing. The 'RATS complain about it everyday anyway, what do you think they will do if they get the presidency?

I can't stand the demo'rat party. I haven't forgotten the 8 years of Clinton, and I haven't forgotten the absolutely disgraceful way the dems have acted since 9/11. They don't give a flying frisbee about our nation. They want us to be diminished "We have too much power, we scare other nations, that's why we are hated." Remember statements like that? (Personally-I think Clinton and his "World Wide Apologize for the USA" tours during his presidency, played a big part in AlQueda seeing us as weak and thinking we'd crumble under attack)

In any case, there is NO WAY I wouldn't vote for President Bush. I may not agree with him about everything, but that doesn't change my opinion of him as a great leader. He got us through 9/11. Our troops like him. He RESPECTS them and the sacrifices they are asked to make. We are in the middle of a war and still recovering from the biggest attack in our nations history. I'm staying with the team that has gotten us through it . I wouldn't trust a democrat ( the majority of them-with maybe one or 2 exceptions) to clean up after my dogs droppings in the backyard.- Much less elect to give one the power of the presidency.

Just my 2 and 1/2 cents.

[EternalVigilance]

Most of the country calls themselves evangelical Christians when polled. Half the population stays home in any election. Those are phony numbers ginned up to slam conservatives.

I have to stop myself periodically and come back to the realization that you are just a crusty contrarian, and not a strategist for the party.

If Rove had a shot at you and all of your buddies around here who seem to be on a mission to alienate conservatives, on America's premiere conservative website, he would probably wring your neck.

It saddens me that Jim, while rightfully reining in the Bush-bashers for the sake of keeping our country out of the hands of the treasonous RATs, is seemingly slow to rein in you conservative-bashers. You're doing more damage than any of them could ever dream of. It is a shame that such a fine establishment as FR is being used as such a platform.

I'm praying for a miracle... that it will stop.

[Texasforever]

I asked a simple and repectful question. I am not bashing conservatives, I am one.

[EternalVigilance]

And I gave you a straight and truthful answer.

I had organization in all 50 states after the Philly convention in 2000. They all went to work for George W. Bush.

How many votes did you bring home, Tex? One?

[Texasforever]

I didn't claim to bring in votes you did. You said millions and I find it fascinating since it was Keyes’ base that sat out 2000. There is no doubt that 4 million sat out 2000 and that 4 million alone would have given Bush a real mandate not to mention the Millions you claim to have mobilized. It is also fascinating that many in that same base are now threatening to sit out 2004.