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Vanity | Feb. 11, 2004 | Nix Two

Posted on 02/07/2004 4:31:25 PM PST by Nix 2

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To: EternalVigilance
that all principled conservatives

EV,I'm sorry you missed my point.I'm not in disagreement with a goodly bit of your statements. You do understand what I was trying to say, though, correct?

321 posted on 02/07/2004 8:55:42 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: dubyaismypresident
And you think the sample is not representive...why?

Representative of what? Yes it is consistently representative of the 20% unappeasable that have always been here. That 20% does not represent a pool of potential votes to be swayed. That 20% is and always has been anti-GOP/Bush.

322 posted on 02/07/2004 8:55:50 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Nix 2
So now, seniors have a prescription program

Yeah..one that will cost them just about as much as what they have now, and in some cases more. What this is about is a $500,000,000,000 gift to the drug companies that have been gouging the elderly and ill in order to subsidize cheap drugs outside our borders. For three months prior to this boondoggle, the drug companies had been wining and dining our politicians, giving large contributions in order to get them to ban the customers going off border to purchase their drugs at reasonable prices. What they got was the above mentioned gift, paid for by you and me. Reward for gouging America. Capische?
323 posted on 02/07/2004 8:57:48 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004!)
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To: Texasforever; Lazamataz; Happygal; hellinahandcart
There, there. You've got yourself all worked up.


324 posted on 02/07/2004 8:57:56 PM PST by sauropod (I'm Happy, You're Happy, We're ALL Happy!)
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To: joesbucks
"For years conservatives were wrong about deficits"

ROTFLOL! You people just don't quit with your disinformation do you ..??
325 posted on 02/07/2004 8:58:37 PM PST by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: Texasforever; EternalVigilance
Speaking of 20%.... It was Rove that alluded to some 4 million of the Religious Right that didn't show in 2000. That's 4 million out of some 19 million he expected to vote... 4/19=21%.

The 20% or so on FR aren't all conservatives by any stretch and wouldn't vote for President Bush regardless. The same was showing in 2000 when Keyes, Buchanan, etc would win many polls of FR participants but didn't get a good sniff on election day... If I remember correctly according to exit polling President Bush only got some 81% of conservatives with most of the remainder voting for Gore...
326 posted on 02/07/2004 8:59:01 PM PST by deport (269 days until Tuesday 2 November - General Election)
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To: Texasforever; EternalVigilance
...in spite of the unappeasables.

This provides a good example. The poster you were speaking with is not, in his opinion, or mine, if that matters, "unappeasable." Because you addressed it to him it may appear as a personal attack. If you are attacking him, well, you got your point across in a roundabout way. If, however, you were not intending to accuse EV of unappeasability, perhaps you could be a bit more specific, pinging the posters who have actually demonstrated this to you? You might also quote a specific post where they expressed this unappeasability.

In this way you would not be offending someone you did not intend to offend, either the person you replied to with the comment or lurking FReepers, yet you would still be getting your point across.

327 posted on 02/07/2004 8:59:18 PM PST by .30Carbine (Is the Right to Life your number one issue?)
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To: gatorbait
Pretty much.
328 posted on 02/07/2004 8:59:22 PM PST by sauropod (I'm Happy, You're Happy, We're ALL Happy!)
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To: dubyaismypresident
I haave a dozen more if you are intereested
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3914b11a20d4.htm

No, I just disagree with libertarians, populists and paleo-cons.
329 posted on 02/07/2004 9:00:24 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
The 20% that have voted in the FR poll.

Thank you for making that distinction. I don't know who they are; do you?

330 posted on 02/07/2004 9:00:48 PM PST by .30Carbine (Is the Right to Life your number one issue?)
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To: Texasforever
Representative of what?

Representative of FR.

It is consistently representative of the 20% unappeasable that have always been here.

Again, source please.

That 20% does not represent a pool of potential votes to be swayed. That 20% is and always has been anti-GOP/Bush.

Well of course FR is not representative of the larger population. That is a given.

I still stand by the "don't let the door hit you on the way out" strategy as effective voter outreach.

331 posted on 02/07/2004 9:01:16 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Arlen Specter supports the regime in Iran, which is the same one that took our people hostage)
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To: Texasforever
Since 2000 there has always been an 80/20 split on FR between GOP conservatives and 3rd party libertarians/populists/paleo-conservatives.

Is that a personal guesstimate, or has someone done the research?

332 posted on 02/07/2004 9:02:30 PM PST by .30Carbine (Is the Right to Life your number one issue?)
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To: deport
Fine. Go right on slamming conservatives, if you somehow think that is going to help the man you profess undying loyalty to.

But forgive me if I consider that crazy.
333 posted on 02/07/2004 9:03:32 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Texasforever
I still don't stand by the "don't let the door hit you on the way out" strategy as effective voter outreach.

Editted and corrected.

334 posted on 02/07/2004 9:03:48 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Arlen Specter supports the regime in Iran, which is the same one that took our people hostage)
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To: dubyaismypresident
There is no such thing as "voter outreach on FR" There never has been

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39a0dd66179a.htm



335 posted on 02/07/2004 9:04:07 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: sauropod

336 posted on 02/07/2004 9:05:47 PM PST by diotima
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To: .30Carbine
I haven't spoken in generalities. I am speaking to exactly what I've seen, heard, and read right here and on State Pages. Some of the rhetoric is appalling. That is what I was addressing...and trying to add some understanding of the bogus bad rap President Bush has gotten for almost everything he has done on domestic issues. Personally, with most of the world and the leftist libs, Marxists, fascists, Communists, and Socialists throwing pond scum at him 24/7, I am amazed that he has been able to accomplish even a third of what he has managed to do, with little or no help at all from those we trusted for help.
Republican used to mean OPPOSITE of democrat. Now, we have Scottish law, International law, green law, and heaven only knows who else has snuck in and destroyed us from within. We keep saying we want our country back. Maybe we should take our party back first and quit blaming the one man who had the guts to deal with it all.
Who REALLY believes that Bush didn't feel in his heart, (and he SHOULD have been right,) that the Campaign Reform Act would have been overturned by the Supreme Court? It IS unconstitutional. Who really believes that he thought HIS OWN PARTY would send him such a bill after he warned them? And do you REALLY think he would be so easy to deal with after that? He has told Congress not to send him the assault weapons ban. If they do, are you going to blame him for that too? We are supposed to be the majority. McCain was dirty. He hasn't stopped being dirty. Dirty money got him in trouble. He was just so determined to punish the whole electorate for it. So why isn't anyone screaming blue Moses about McCain? You know...the great *conservative* McCain?
337 posted on 02/07/2004 9:06:05 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: Texasforever
Just remember, in the FR vote:

If it's Kerry vs Bush how will you vote?

Kerry 28 votes - 1%

338 posted on 02/07/2004 9:06:05 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: Texasforever
Well, you think you are helping Bush and I think you are helping Kerry by angering right minded people. I guess we just are not going to agree.

P.S. Again in full disclosure: I am voting for Bush no matter how much you and your ilk anger me.

339 posted on 02/07/2004 9:06:18 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Arlen Specter supports the regime in Iran, which is the same one that took our people hostage)
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To: .30Carbine
Is that a personal guesstimate, or has someone done the research?

When you add the libertarian/populist/paleo-con/JBS contengient together yes it is about 20%.

340 posted on 02/07/2004 9:06:28 PM PST by Texasforever
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