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To: tallhappy
Um, yes and no. Very lawyerly of you. The WWII surrender docs signed on Mo don't have that specifity, but they do agree to surrender to SCAP-Japan. So the Japanese directly surrendered to the SCAP, who ordered them to surrender all of China, including Taiwan, to a person, Chiang Kai-Shek, pursuant to General Order 1 of the Supreme Commander for the Allied Powers, MacArthur. Chiang Kai-Shek just happened to be the representative of the Chinese government at the time.

"a. The senior Japanese commanders and all ground, sea, air and auxiliary forces within China (excluding Manchuria), Formosa and French Indo-China north of 16 north latitude shall surrender to Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek."

Not that the U.S. didn't really have the dominant influence there or in China after Mao started getting fidgety--but technically, China had possession of Taiwan last before Taiwan became a (practically) independent country. Which is what I think we're arguing about.

RE: claims, no doubt that no claim is more valid than that of the people of Taiwan to their own sovereignty. I am a strong advocate of their independence and feel that if we, the people of the U.S., are actually saying that the Taiwanese people should not declare their independence from a PRC government that doesn't devise its power from the consent of the governed, we have lost our way and should quit claiming our nation started in 1776. I hate the notion of fighting over Taiwan, but I think we're going to eventually and I'd rather fight while I CAN fight personally than leave it to my children to someday clean up.
12 posted on 02/03/2004 6:56:29 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (THIS TAGLINE VETTED BY THE TSA...it was sharp and had a point before they got to it.)
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To: LibertarianInExile
The Japanese surrender treaty was the Treaty of San Francisco which wasn't finished until six years after the war ended.

You can read it here

Concerning Taiwan it states in CHAPTER II, TERRITORY, Article 2:

(b) Japan renounces all right, title and claim to Formosa and the Pescadores.

That's all.

Japanese surrender documents can be read here

Other treaties relating to Taiwan can be read here.

13 posted on 02/03/2004 11:40:04 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: LibertarianInExile
if we, the people of the U.S., are actually saying that the Taiwanese people should not declare their independence from a PRC government that doesn't devise its power from the consent of the governed, we have lost our way and should quit claiming our nation started in 1776.

Yes. Exactly right and well put.

14 posted on 02/03/2004 11:41:33 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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