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I Don't Owe the Military Anything
Lewrockwell.com ^
| January 29, 2004
| Brad Edmonds
Posted on 01/29/2004 6:28:15 AM PST by dixiepatriot
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To: dixiepatriot
In Orwell's scenario the threats were conjured up. In today's reality, the threats are real. There happens to be an extensive clash of wills, between several foreign intrests and the intrest of Freedom.
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posted on
01/29/2004 7:04:52 AM PST
by
spunkets
To: dixiepatriot
The author turns himself into a pretzel, wanting to denounce the military and its PEOPLE, yet he has not the courage to come up front with his denouncement. He has to qualify himself by using his father as a shield. Idiot.
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posted on
01/29/2004 7:06:04 AM PST
by
cynicom
To: Gefreiter
Re: 40 years of (US) bombings in the Middle East?!I seriously doubt that this writer is what he claims to be -- a CIA veteran -- since I'm sure that he can't point to a US "bombing" in the Middle East taking place any time between 1964 and Reagan's Libya Raid.
If you ask me, the US has shown remarkable restraint -- up till now that is...
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posted on
01/29/2004 7:07:15 AM PST
by
Tallguy
(Does anybody really think that Saddam's captor really said "Pres. Bush sends his regards"?)
To: elfman2
I had a friend in high school who had most of his earlier extended family killed in the Warsaw Ghetto and another who had a 3 inch folder of the Nazi stamped identity and immigration documents from the time an American uncle undertook a dangerous and lengthy journey to remove his relatives from Nazi occupied Lithuania. Needless to say, both understood a little more about freedom that the average "young skull full of mush" at that age...
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posted on
01/29/2004 7:09:42 AM PST
by
Axenolith
(<tag>)
To: dixiepatriot
Let me make sure I understand this Edmonds jackass. He says this about his service in the CIA . . .
I entered the CIA for adventure, an income, and federal benefits.
Adventure, income, and federal benefits. Okey-doke. I got it.
Now he says this about military veterans . . .
That these men and women served does not create a positive obligation on my part to pay for their medical care or anything else . . .
So . . . patrician punks like him can join the CIA for federal benefits, and expect them to be paid, but military veterans who joined the military for the federal benefits (GI Bill, health care, etc.) shouldn't expect for their country to "really" follow through with the promises the veteran was given when he or she joined?
Yup, typical socialist jackass. I only have one thing to say about or to Mr. Edmonds . . .
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posted on
01/29/2004 7:10:27 AM PST
by
geedee
(They who give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.)
To: MEG33
Right.This article proves we are free to write anything.
Even George Soros!
To: skip2myloo
I bet the author can't stand to watch "Tactical to Practical" on the History channel.
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posted on
01/29/2004 7:14:44 AM PST
by
muskogee
To: dixiepatriot
I don't idolize, but I do admire those 99% of the members of the armed forces who have served honorably. But I owe them nothing.Hmmm. Should I or shouldn't I?
Yeah, I guess I should. Listen pogey-bait, I'm speaking as one those that you owe nothing to: I didn't ask for anything from you, in the first place, you stinking REMF.
I served because I got paid reasonably well to do things that I enjoyed doing. Others may call it what they wish, I called it a job. I didn't fail at it, either. Your stinking ass is still around to spew this crap, ain't it?
Thanks for paying your taxes, so that I could be paid, but otherwise, I really don't give a damn if you live or die.
In fact, you mealy-mouthed wanna-be spook, your type is the same type that did nothing but piss me off day after day, anyway, since all you could do was postulate and present your silly-ass pipe dreams based upon your fabricated imaginings, with no other purpose than to make a pitiful attempt to justify your own job. Good and honorable men died for your Clancy imaginings.
Your type wasted my time and talents on many occasions, with your Cold War crap and the constant doom and gloom crap that never existed.
You would have been better off just keeping your idiotic mouth shut. Tis better to keep silent and be thought a fool, than to open ones mouth and verify the suspicion.
CIA, my ass. The good ones don't go around spouting this crap. If you knew half of what you think you know about why someone serves, you wouldn't be wasting your time writing your silliness for Lew Rockwell forums.
But, you, you ignorant James Bond wannabe, you don't know diddly about your subject, best you go back to writing assessments of non-existant planned invasions of Bora-Bora or whatever it is you ring-knocking, joe college CIA dipshits do.
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posted on
01/29/2004 7:15:12 AM PST
by
OldSmaj
To: cyncooper
Lord, grant me patience with idiotic rantings and ravings from the clinically insane.
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posted on
01/29/2004 7:16:01 AM PST
by
geedee
(They who give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.)
To: dixiepatriot
I cannot comment further and maintain civility.
To: mrsmith; aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer; Poohbah; hellinahandcart; All
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posted on
01/29/2004 7:18:16 AM PST
by
dighton
To: dixiepatriot
I entered the CIA for adventure, an income, and federal benefits.It's "bureaucrats" like this guy at CIA that were as surprised as the rest of America on the morning of 9/11. Perhaps if HE had done his job better, we wouldn't be in the mess that he himself outlines.
My criticism of the writer, and the CIA may not be "fair", but it is only as fair as his critique of the Military. Mr. Edmonds should not sleep at night after he cashes his CIA retirement paycheck -- he evidently did little to earn it.
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posted on
01/29/2004 7:21:44 AM PST
by
Tallguy
(Does anybody really think that Saddam's captor really said "Pres. Bush sends his regards"?)
To: dighton; aculeus; BlueLancer; hellinahandcart
When every citizen disagrees with any proposed self-expansion of government, the government probably won-t expand. It-s when citizens are largely in agreement with any aspect of government expansion that government expansion becomes the most extensive and the most likely to be permanent. We-re told "those people must be punished, even if it means taking innocent lives abroad." This implies that we don-t think the perpetrators should be punished... Medal earned for brave defiance in the face of enemy apostrophes...
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posted on
01/29/2004 7:23:28 AM PST
by
general_re
("Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson)
To: dighton; Poohbah; aculeus; general_re; L,TOWM; Constitution Day; hellinahandcart; Thinkin' Gal; ...
Yo, Brad ... when they take away your crayon and lettered building blocks, then you can whine about the black-shirted, jack-booted thugs tyrannizing you. As long as you're still outside of a prison cell writing this stuff, it's sort of hard to believe that you're so oppressed ...
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posted on
01/29/2004 7:23:43 AM PST
by
BlueLancer
(Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
To: OldSmaj
The CIA,the UN inspectors,the intelligence communities in "old Europe" aren't looking good right now They got it wrong on Iraq,Iran,Libya ,and NKorea.They also got the USSR fall wrong.
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posted on
01/29/2004 7:26:20 AM PST
by
MEG33
(America will never seek a permission slip to provide for the security of our country)
To: TonyBanks
You mean "good points" like this one:
The military has failed in its duty to protect our freedoms.
I'm not sure what this buffoon thinks, but it is not the responsibility of the military to regulate domestic law enforcement. Nor is it the responsiblity of the military to determine the particular military actions in which it will engage. In essense, the author is blaming his carpenter because his car broke down. Why he decided to make the military the pin cushion for his diatribe is a complete mystery to me.
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posted on
01/29/2004 7:26:37 AM PST
by
XJarhead
To: dighton
ARTHUR: Well, we all are. We are all Britons, and I am your king.
WOMAN: I didn't know we had a king. I thought we were an autonomous collective.
DENNIS: You're fooling yourself. We're living in a dictatorship: a self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes--
WOMAN: Oh, there you go bringing class into it again.
DENNIS: That's what it's all about. If only people would hear of--
ARTHUR: Please! Please, good people. I am in haste. Who lives in that castle?
WOMAN: No one lives there.
ARTHUR: Then who is your lord?
WOMAN: We don't have a lord.
ARTHUR: What?
DENNIS: I told you. We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week,...
ARTHUR: Yes.
DENNIS: ...but all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting...
ARTHUR: Yes, I see.
DENNIS: ...by a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs,...
ARTHUR: Be quiet! DENNIS: ...but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more major--
ARTHUR: Be quiet! I order you to be quiet!
WOMAN: Order, eh? Who does he think he is? Heh.
ARTHUR: I am your king!
WOMAN: Well, I didn't vote for you.
ARTHUR: You don't vote for kings.
WOMAN: Well, how did you become King, then?
ARTHUR: The Lady of the Lake,...
[angels sing]
...her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur.
[singing stops]
That is why I am your king!
DENNIS: Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
: Be quiet!
DENNIS: Well, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!
ARTHUR: Shut up!
DENNIS: I mean, if I went 'round saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!
ARTHUR: Shut up, will you? Shut up!
DENNIS: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system.
ARTHUR: Shut up!
DENNIS: Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
ARTHUR: Bloody peasant!
DENNIS: Oh, what a give-away. Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about. Did you see him repressing me? You saw it, didn't you?
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posted on
01/29/2004 7:31:33 AM PST
by
BlueLancer
(Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
To: OldSmaj
But, you, you ignorant James Bond wannabe, you don't know diddly about your subject, best you go back to writing assessments of non-existant planned invasions of Bora-Bora or whatever it is you ring-knocking, joe college CIA dipshits do.Here! Here, Sergeant Major! You tell him.
I thought you would find this interesting. Here's part of another article Mr. Edmonds evidently thinks he's an expert on. It's titled Horsepower King and deals with cars. Evidently, Mr. Edmonds thinks damn highly of his own intelligence . . . or he just keeps throwing cacca at the wall, hoping to one day get a paying job writing -- there's a "beggar link" at the bottom of the article for donations.
I only cite the first paragraph . . .
The horsepower wars will continue fortunately for us but for the time being, there is a champion. Among all the Mustang Cobras, Corvettes, the new Nissan 350Z (an excellent value in a fast sports coupe, not far behind a Corvette at $20,000 less), and the turbocharged 500-hp Mercedes sedans and coupes, there is a single winner: Honda.
Horsepower wizard to political guru to military genius to master strategist to armchair philosopher . . . Edmonds' ego is writing checks his hummingbird accomplishments don't back up.
I don't know if you saw his photo at the bottom of the Horsepower article but he sure looks young to have "retired" from the CIA. And if he didn't retire . . . then what federal benefits could he have coming? Methinks the jackass was probably fired.
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posted on
01/29/2004 7:34:11 AM PST
by
geedee
(They who give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.)
To: dixiepatriot
*If the military is supposed to be defending our freedoms in the US, why is all the action in other countries?*
Brad, Brad, Brad....
You shoot the gators before they get to the boat.
*...if the military were doing such a great job of defending our freedom, why do we have so much less of it than we had in 1787? In 1865? In 1912? In 1932? In 1960?*
Brad, Brad, Brad....
When last I read the US Law is made by Congress and the courts. I don't necessarily agree withsome of them, but I have taken an oath to protect and defend same. The military (I still serve proudly) doesn't make law, only upholds it.
*It is by this point uncontroversial that our freedoms would have been better defended without a standing military.*
Brad, Brad, Brad...
Uncontroversial? Pick which language and culture you would have preferred: Japanese, German or Soviet. Lets talk about the past.
Major Buzzsaw
USAF
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posted on
01/29/2004 7:35:56 AM PST
by
buzzsaw6
(a Bright light in a Dem district!)
To: BlueLancer
"Watery tart" is one of my favorite lines from the movie...until they mock the French.
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posted on
01/29/2004 7:35:56 AM PST
by
HRoarke
(Benedict Arnold was a Veteran too!)
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