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To: Victorious
We have not been able to build a fallout shelter and that concerns me..

Same here. Shelter is probably THE #1 thing to make sure you have - even before food and water. Yet, it's probably one of the harder things to accomplish.

There are ways around it, tho. Check out a book called "Nuclear War Survival Skills". I think nitro-pak.com has it, and you can find e-copies on the 'net. There's a lot of info in there on what to do for shelter, including arranging things in your basement (per FEMA), digging a fallout shelter outside, etc (neighbors might look at you kind of oddly, tho).

I've been considering finishing one of my rooms in the basement with solid cement block walls. (Cement provides great Rad protection). This is a tad expensive, though, as I have to hire a brick mason type guy, and the material is HEAVY! From there, you can create a positive pressure difference with one of those contraptions like americansaferoom(s?).com sells - this could keep out bio, chem and nuclear. All in all, a pretty safe solution. But, I wonder if it is "overkill". And, it only does you good if you can get from work (or wherever else) to home when TSHTF.

Short of shelter, three things I'd HIGHLY recommend getting:

Of course, it is imperative to have all of these things with you at ALL times, or else they do no good..

This won't totally protect you, but you'll know when to get the heck out of dodge, and will give you a much, MUCH better chance of survival than 99% of the others who haven't been so attentive to preparation.

4,915 posted on 02/02/2004 2:19:31 PM PST by jstolzen (All it takes for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke)
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To: jstolzen
Thanks for the info. I've read most of the online version of Nuclear Survival Skills.

We have no basement, I can't dig a fallout shelter by myself, even if I could, we had so much rain last year that we would drown in one if we had to use it and got as much rain as last year.

I did buy the pills 3 years ago.
Did ya'll know that U.S. Postal Employees were given KI pills? They gave my husband enough for a couple days. That made him even more supportive of me. I had already bought 2 bottles. I wanted enough to give to family memebers. And I gave him extra in case he is stuck in the area. He works 10 miles from the nuclear plant. That's why he got them, I guess all U.S.Postal service employees that work within a certain radius of a nuclear plant got them last summer.

If I had the money, I'd buy one of those key chain things to detect radiation that's one of the things that is still on my list when I get the money. One of the other things is a generator.
4,923 posted on 02/02/2004 2:36:45 PM PST by Victorious
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To: jstolzen
Short of shelter, three things I'd HIGHLY recommend getting: * Personal RAD detector (nukalert.com has a good one). Put it on your keychain and take it EVERYWHERE as it does no good sitting at home. * N95+ masks (something SMALL that you carry with you at ALL times in a bag, purse, etc). * KI pills

Hope you haven't already answered this (I'm running a little behind on these posts :-( )...Where can I get N95+ masks and KI pills?

5,477 posted on 02/03/2004 10:46:00 AM PST by FollowingTheGrace
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