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Jobs Americans Won't Do: Voodoo Economics from the White House.
National Review Online ^ | January 07, 2004 | Mark Krikorian

Posted on 01/07/2004 10:51:13 AM PST by xsysmgr

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To: StatesEnemy
Allowing employers to undercut the TRUE cost of doing business

Uh that's the employer's purpose, to put out the best product in the market at the lowest possible price, unless you are believer in Hillary economics.

81 posted on 01/07/2004 12:21:27 PM PST by Dane
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To: AAABEST
He's not like me, he's a Northeastern socialist like you and your plundering figurehead

Uh psedo-Buchanan trogdude, GW Bush even though not born in Texas spent most of his life there, even became Governor, and didn't institute an income tax.

82 posted on 01/07/2004 12:24:14 PM PST by Dane
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To: StatesEnemy
And your excess milk production that the government buys to keep off the shelves and so maintain inflated prices in the checkout line, is that excess milk also kept in taxpayer-subsidized cooling plants owned by acquaintances of yours? No kidding, I'd like to know.
83 posted on 01/07/2004 12:25:17 PM PST by Middle Man
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To: Dane
He was born and raised into Northeastern blueblood and governs as such. It's hereditary.

Think Snow, Shays etc.

84 posted on 01/07/2004 12:27:24 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: BenLurkin
I don't buy the WH's argument that there are jobs Americans "won't do".

No kidding. What he's saying is that there are jobs that Americans won't do for less than the cost of living.

85 posted on 01/07/2004 12:27:28 PM PST by Jim Cane
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To: BenLurkin
I don't buy the WH's argument that there are jobs Americans "won't do".

Its true...

I will give you perfect example too. In Marin County California every day you drive down Anderson or Bellam in San Rafael and find hundreds of hispanics looking for work. They stand in the sun and the rain, it matters not. They openly advertise there desire to work, to do any work, every day by there mere presence.

5 or so miles away across the bay in Richmond, you can find a similar scene, but looks are decieving. Here the streets are full of the unemployed, sitting on corners, hangin out at the liquor store. This community of African Americans choose to spend their time loitering for the sake of loitering.

Across my entire memory, I can never recall packs of African Americans, or White guys for that matter, standing on the street corners to hopefully cop a job from some homeowner or contractor in Marin. Never ever.

Explain to me how it is that Americans never stand on the street corner for the opportunity to get behind the wooden end of a shovel?

For the record...I am against blanket amnesty...

86 posted on 01/07/2004 12:29:05 PM PST by antaresequity
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To: AAABEST
He was born and raised into Northeastern blueblood and governs as such. It's hereditary.

Think Snow, Shays etc

Yeah right, like Snow or Shays would give the finger to the UN or sign a PBA ban.

87 posted on 01/07/2004 12:29:17 PM PST by Dane
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To: antaresequity
Now, did you offer any of those blacks a job? The ones you standing on the side of the street?
88 posted on 01/07/2004 12:38:37 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: xsysmgr
But it's the second part of the response to a tighter labor market that people just don't get. By holding down natural wage growth in labor-intensive industries, immigration serves as a subsidy for low-wage, low-productivity ways of doing business, retarding technological progress and productivity growth.

That's it in a nutshell. Karl Rove and GWB are buying votes once again, at the expense of law abiding Americans.

89 posted on 01/07/2004 12:40:42 PM PST by Moonman62
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To: antaresequity
Explain to me how it is that Americans never stand on the street corner for the opportunity to get behind the wooden end of a shovel?

Because standing on the corner looking for a job implies that you are willing to work for an employer who will illegally pay below-the-minimum wage, illegally not pay taxes, not pay any benefits etc...

Legitimate employment seekers use the internet, newspapers or other means to find legal employers.

90 posted on 01/07/2004 12:45:14 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: gubamyster
Because standing on the corner looking for a job implies that you are willing to work for an employer who will illegally pay below-the-minimum wage, illegally not pay taxes, not pay any benefits etc... Legitimate employment seekers use the internet, newspapers or other means to find legal employers

Sure thing.

First off, guys standing on street corners to push shovels get paid well over minimum wage. In my neck of the woods, the MW is 6 and change. These street folk demand 10 and more.

Second, hiring a person off the street 9 times out 10 is for a very short duration. Last I checked you don't even need to report income less than 500 annually.

Third, benefits are for long term workers. If a street worker turns out to be a good catch, these people are typically assimilated into the organization and eventually win the benefits(provided they have papers).

Fourth, any employer who is succesful knows that seriel street hiring to avoid taxes and benefits is a losing proposition. Training costs money and is an investment to the business. They don't hire and fire and piss money down a rathole training people over and over again to do the same job.

Lastly...please tell me your joking that construction, type laborers should use the internet to seek employement? That was the best laugh all day

91 posted on 01/07/2004 12:54:19 PM PST by antaresequity
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To: Dane
There are some good things Mr. Bush has done. My favorite being inadvertantly opening the door to Christian hegemony in the Mideast.

That said there is no denying that his excuse for a domestic policy for the most part mimics that of a lefty dem.

92 posted on 01/07/2004 12:57:24 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: sarcasm
Get ready to pay higher taxes to subsidize them and their families

We already are aren't we? Especially in the border states.

93 posted on 01/07/2004 12:59:51 PM PST by ladyinred (What the heck happened to 2003?)
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To: ladyinred
Bush wants to import more.
94 posted on 01/07/2004 1:01:37 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
Get ready to pay higher taxes to subsidize them and their families

This issue is the product of liberal handout policies. Not foreign born workers producing in our economy.

There is nothing wrong with welcoming foreign labor. There is everything wrong with socialist handout programs.

Sounds like your mixing apples and oranges. The causal relatsionship isn't that of foreign labor = subsidy....the causal relatsionship is liberals = subsidy...

Keep your eye on the ball.

95 posted on 01/07/2004 1:05:11 PM PST by antaresequity
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To: antaresequity
You fail to consider that they will vote for politicians who will support welfare programs.
96 posted on 01/07/2004 1:08:12 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
You fail to consider that they will vote for politicians who will support welfare programs.

Well...thats a problem with our system...not the Hispanic workers. The fact is that there are gazillions of natural born citizens who will do that day in and day out anyway, ie Gorons and Deaniacs

And I am not so sure the liberals can count on a rubber stamp from these folks either. They are a god fearing people rich with family values and morals...

Only time will tell there.

97 posted on 01/07/2004 1:14:37 PM PST by antaresequity
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To: xsysmgr
WANTED:
Person to scrub toilets, cut the lawn, sweep the resturant out. Pay....$5 per hour.

Let's see how many Americans show up for the job.

That's why Juan is here. And he doesn't bitch. And he sends money home to Mexico.

98 posted on 01/07/2004 1:19:10 PM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: AAABEST
You really do sound like what I already posted..."There's another little angry guy out there who sounds just like you and he's from Vermont."

What do you object to - the "little" or the "Vermont".

99 posted on 01/07/2004 1:20:39 PM PST by eleni121
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100 posted on 01/07/2004 1:24:13 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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