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To: DallasMike
One could make a very good historical argument that if Alexandria hadn't been sacked, it would have ended up as the center of the Christian church instead of Rome.

Obviously, according to Scripture, God's Will was done in the head of the Church ending up in Rome under Peter:

Matthew 16: 15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Notice how certain posters on this thread skipped these bold lines in jumping to the line where Jesus disciplined His first Pope?

511 posted on 01/01/2004 8:12:43 PM PST by Polycarp IV (http://www.cathfam.org/)
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To: CAtholic Family Association
Peter had just professed faith in Jesus Christ as the Messiah, the Son of the Living God. It is this statement of faith on which the Kingdom was and is established. It was not established on a fallible man.
516 posted on 01/01/2004 8:16:40 PM PST by Kevin Curry ("When I was growing, we didn't even treat the servants like servants." Andree Dean, Howie's mom)
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To: CAtholic Family Association
God love ya. Keep firing away, maybe someday the light will come on.
518 posted on 01/01/2004 8:20:50 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch (Auto-buffet!... what BlackElk said! Let the Inquisition begin!)
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To: CAtholic Family Association
Notice how certain posters on this thread skipped these bold lines in jumping to the line where Jesus disciplined His first Pope?
Yes, but don't forget that what Christ gave to Peter in Matthew 16:18 He also gave to all of the apostles in Matthew 18:18. Further, Ephesians 2:20 says that the church is built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets -- not just Peter -- and that Christ Himself is the capstone. Peter in 1 Peter 2:7 refers to Christ as the "cornerstone" and in verse 4 to believers in general as living stones. In 1 Peter 5:1-2, Peter describes himself as a fellow presbyter, not as the chief apostle.

The Bible does not support the claim that Peter was given unique authority among the apostles. Peter addressed the first council (Acts 15) but it was James who gave the final words. This confirms early church documents (I'll provide links if you wish, but not tonight) that James was the leader of the early church.


523 posted on 01/01/2004 8:26:14 PM PST by DallasMike
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