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To: Bush2000
Ping.
2 posted on
12/28/2003 10:56:07 AM PST by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Well, I'll believe it when I see it. This article reads like a lot of wishful thinking, to me.
3 posted on
12/28/2003 10:57:35 AM PST by
sinkspur
(Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
WooHoo! Let the flame wars begin!
100% microsoft free and loving it!
7 posted on
12/28/2003 11:22:27 AM PST by
zeugma
(The Great Experiment is over.)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Everybody loves to hate Microsoft. Poor old Bill Gates. He gives hundreds of millions of dollars to liberal causes, and the liberals still hate him. Conservatives too. Just can't win.
But I like my Windows XP.
9 posted on
12/28/2003 11:33:23 AM PST by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
When I went to buy MS Office 97 many moons ago, I was upgrading from Mac Word 4.0, which of course meant I couldn't upgrade because I was switching platforms. But Office was like $500. So I bought a used version of MS Works for $5, and then the office upgrade for $149. Saved a bundle.
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Once upon a time, there were so many operating systems, that it was difficult to write generic software. Each and every computer hardware manufacturer had it's own operating system and their was chaos.
Along came IBM with Microsoft and an operating system standard emerged for software development.
Today, over 85% of all computers around the world are compatible with the Microsoft software standard.
Companies today, are able maximize their profits by creating software that is compatible with the vast majority of computers. No longer do they need to spend valuable man-years in adapting their software toward the lowest common denominator.
No matter how hard you try, the lowest common denominator will always produce software that is unable to exploit new capabilities. The result is poor software for everyone.
How many of you remember why almost all of the early software was text based only? Graphics interfaces were not standardized and ASCII was the only common interface between the multiple operating systems and languages available. Even ASCII was not universal, since companies like IBM continued to insist upon EBCDIC as their binary representation of text.
Love it or hate it, Microsoft created a standard. Today, we see software at very low costs, which would simply be impossible to do without a common software environment.
Instead of creating software chaos once again, we must focus upon fixing the problems within the Microsoft operating system.
14 posted on
12/28/2003 11:45:59 AM PST by
Hunble
To: E. Pluribus Unum
This is the same kind of hubris that the Apple people used to display. Linux may be different, but I doubt it. The analysis in the article underestimates greatly the power of inertia.
A great example of this principle is the layout of the keys on a keyboard. Have you ever wondered why the keys are where they are? It goes all the way back to manual strike typewriters. The keys were layed out to optimize how the metal arms struck the paper. It had nothing to do with the convenience of the typer. This reason for laying out the keys on the keyboard was lost when the electric typewriter was invented (hello IBM) and this was decades before the personal computer.
Even though there have been no metal arms for decades, the keys are still layed out in the same place. Attempts to "rationalize" the keyboard, e.g. DVORAK instead of QWERTY failed miserably. Apple in fact offered this as an option for a while.
ESPERANTO is another example of the failure of the "rational" solution. This was the intellectual's attempt to rationalize the language people speek. Seriously! I bet Howard Dean knows how to speak it. If he becomes the Rat nominee he may even give a speech in it. The elites would go ga ga over this.
But nobody in the real world wants to switch to the 'better product' if the current product works well enough. For those old enough to remember, Technocracy Inc. is another failed effort to replace market choice with a more 'rational' solution. It never works.
Microsoft will not rule forever. They will one day be dethroned by the market place. The economic arguments the author makes have some validity. But only a fool buys the 'Linux is free' argument. It may be free for the geek working at home but not for a serious enterprise. Large corporations may one day pay IBM to support Linux for them rather than pay Microsoft to support Windows. But I don't see this in the near future.
In fact, I bet if we dug deep enough we would find that the author has ties to IBM. IBM is still pissed that they gave 100s of billions of dollars away to Microsoft. Linux is their current attempt to retake the field.
FWIW
16 posted on
12/28/2003 11:53:43 AM PST by
trek
To: E. Pluribus Unum
My company's IT dept (a BIG aerospace co) is dumping all of its Sun machines for Linux compute clusters.
Which everyone accesses on Windows boxes.
Linux has not penetrated the vast bulk of one of the largest companies on the planet...except to displace Sun with PCs running Linux.
However. I visited Fry's yesterday and they still want $200 for a "full version" of XP, and $90 for an "upgrade version". Outrageous.
--Boris
19 posted on
12/28/2003 11:57:00 AM PST by
boris
(The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
To: E. Pluribus Unum; harpseal; Southack
Our brand-new product is written to a Microsoft API, in Visual Fox 8.0, and requires MS Outlook and MS Mappoint at a minimum. Our related web site will be written in C#.NET, which is the easiest web-development platform to emerge yet.
So, MS won't be dying anytime too soon. Too many people like me code to it.
24 posted on
12/28/2003 12:02:46 PM PST by
Lazamataz
(I slam, you slam, we all slam, for Islam!)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
WHAT AN ENCOURAGING [sadly] DOCUMENT!
Thanks.
Every time I click on my programs button, I have an error message saying there are too many items to show all of them etc. that I should delete some . . .
I've deleted all I can bear to delete!
Also, there's this anoying problem of MSN updates or some such typically cause more than 2-3 windows open or minimized to hang. Forcefully ending the one problem window causes all the IE windows to close. I have 1.X Gigabyte RAM; more than 150 GIGABYTES HD; DUAL AMD 1.XGIGHZ CPU ASUS MOTHERBOARD etc. I shouldn't have any problem having a dozen windows open.
Is there a good efficient place on the MS site to get help from? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
Is there any workable way to get email help? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
They get tons of automated error reports from my machine and that does me all of 0.00000000000% good.
I tried to go to the UPDATE page at MS recently and that was a bust, too. I don't think I could get it to function much at all.
THEY HAD A REPUTATION IN TAIPEI OF BEING ABSOLUTELY BLOOD THIRSTY RUTHLESS AFTER A CORRUPT FASHION.
Regardless, they are grossly insensitive to customers and their products are a mess.
I have a Linux box I've hesitated to fire up because I hate the learning curve and have to interface everything with a college addicted to Microsoft.
But I look forward to the day when I can kiss the monsters goodbye and rejoice only.
36 posted on
12/28/2003 12:30:23 PM PST by
Quix
(Particularly quite true conspiracies are rarely proven until it's too late to do anything about them)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
37 posted on
12/28/2003 12:35:38 PM PST by
jdege
To: E. Pluribus Unum
THANKS! to the Freepers who turned me on to OPERA.
I love it and haven't touched Internet Explorer since. But I am still on XP (which I like).
40 posted on
12/28/2003 12:39:23 PM PST by
avenir
("That really was...a Hattori Hanzo...katana.")
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Just because some companies are moving to Linux doesn't mean there is a big shift from MS going on. In my position, in the last 6 months, I've seen far more implementations of MS server, client and enterprise wide platforms than any other OS.
In direct response to customer demand, our Engineering department is doing more work on certifying MS products than any others. Do we support Redhat Enterprise Linux v3.0? You'll have to wait until Q2 '04 to find out.
On the other hand, all MS 2003 and XP platforms are now certified and supported.
44 posted on
12/28/2003 12:45:09 PM PST by
Bloody Sam Roberts
(Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right.)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
To: E. Pluribus Unum
bumping to read later
To: E. Pluribus Unum
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Microsoft is acting predictably, pretending it is not happening, and putting on a smiley face when asked about prospects. Then it started reacting with the usual FUD, the Halloween memos, various white papers and clumsily purchased studies.
Microsoft cannot fix the 'bugs' that lead to security problems because they are not bugs, they are design choices.
Wow, reminds me of the Microsoft-lackey talking points.
58 posted on
12/28/2003 1:49:13 PM PST by
Petronski
(I'm not always cranky.)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Last I checked everyone and everything is running Windows. Sure, about 5% of the power servers will be running alternatives. But it sure isn't "shifting" away from Microsoft. They've had and still have one of the best business plans and models ever "legally" allowed to exist. =)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Sorry, but Linux is expensive to maintain and quirky to set up on the various PC laptops out there. Maybe on Mac machines things are more streamlined for linux.
That said, I had to get linux on my machine and I had to end up paying $100 worth of tech to finaly make it work with the sound driiver and all that I could not find.
I can get College student priced Windows and Word for 5 bucks each.
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