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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 19-23
Various | November 18, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/18/2003 5:41:24 PM PST by sweetliberty

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To: fiesti
yw; I am a visual learner, I think; I remember, understand, and learn best by seeing things, rather than just "talking" about those things.
601 posted on 11/23/2003 7:35:53 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Budge; Pegita; cyn; Ladysmith; Calpernia; Babalu; floriduh voter; dandelion; PleaseNoMore; ...
NEW THREAD!

602 posted on 11/23/2003 7:36:40 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: pc93
I'm sorry; I can't respond to his lies....I will become too angry in my response to make any effect....I hope that someone who can be more diplomatic than I will respond. What he wrote is absolutely shameful and horrific.
603 posted on 11/23/2003 7:38:32 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: floriduh voter
McDonalds and Agostino's are not in the same league

I was certain it wasn't. But then, neither is MS and Terri. MS thinks he's swank; Terri is.

604 posted on 11/23/2003 7:44:24 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: pc93; floriduh voter; Pegita; CindyDawg; All
I decided just to go ahead and ping to some of the regulars rather than post a new thread. Let's see if we can SPREAD THE WORD....I had a idea the other day of sending up green balloons with "Happy BIRTHDAY TERRI SCHIAVO" ,on her birthday.Well it has been decided we can do it individually at our homes all across America and be fine. Here is what just came in from Florida

"Terri's Hope Balloon Send"

Will take place on Thanksgiving Day, Thursday Nov. 27th at 1 PM EST. Green Balloons will be sent UP, across America and other Countries to show We The People are in "Support of Terri's LIFE and TERRI'S BILL!"

Let's all get some helium green balloons and let them off, tell your friends, neighbors. We can pull this off......we will be letting 40 balloons from our home on Thanksgiving here in Los Angeles. Our balloons will say "Happy Birthday Terri Schiavo Schindler"Even if you can only afford one balloon, it is better than none....ALSO I am going to check with the CITY of LOS ANGELES tomorrow just to be double sure this can be done! Take pictures of your balloons being sent up and post to the site and local newpapers....I am sure to some this is going to seem extreme, but we have all pent up so much emotion, I think it would be good just to do something fun " together"..... Polly

605 posted on 11/23/2003 7:54:10 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: pollywog; All
So what is the court complaint going to be tomorrow? I look forward to weekends. I'll check and see if I can release balloons here.
606 posted on 11/23/2003 7:59:44 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: pc93
Don't worry, once people read the transcript, they'll know that he is a serial killer. First Mom, then Dad and maybe Terri...
607 posted on 11/23/2003 8:12:55 PM PST by TaxRelief
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To: CindyDawg
So what is the court complaint going to be tomorrow?

That Terri's still breathing.

608 posted on 11/23/2003 8:13:11 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: floriduh voter; Chocolate Rose; Republic
Try to imagine for a minute that you are holding someone you love in your arms as they gasp for breath. You then realize that you need to call for help.

Do you FLIP THEM FACE DOWN onto the floor when you stand up???
609 posted on 11/23/2003 8:23:56 PM PST by TaxRelief
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To: Orlando
Do you know when the EMT's arrived?
610 posted on 11/23/2003 8:28:31 PM PST by Krodg
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To: sweetliberty; All
I have a guardianship question. According to 2003 law, MS would have needed a court order before taking Terri to California for any experimental biomedical or behavorial procedure (I'm assuming the electrodes applies.) Was this law the same in 1990-1993, and if so, did he get one?

744.3215(4)(b) Rights of persons determined incapacitated.--

(4) Without first obtaining specific authority from the court, as described in s. 744.3725, a guardian may not:

(b)Consent on behalf of the ward to the performance on the ward of any experimental biomedical or behavioral procedure or to the participation by the ward in any biomedical or behavioral experiment. The court may permit such performance or participation only if: 1. It is of direct benefit to, and is intended to preserve the life of or prevent serious impairment to the mental or physical health of the ward; or 2. It is intended to assist the ward to develop or regain his or her abilities.


http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cfm?mode=View%20Statutes&SubMenu=1&App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=CH0744/Sec3215.HTM
611 posted on 11/23/2003 8:50:03 PM PST by Micavaga
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To: maestro
Psalms 27:"9": Hide not thy face far from me; put not thy servant away in anger: thou hast been my help; leave me not, neither forsake me, O God of my salvation.


Pslams 18:"4": The sorrows of death compassed me, and the floods of ungodly men made me afraid.

Deliver us all from evil men Oh Lord! Thou are our life giver, our sustainer, our hope.
612 posted on 11/23/2003 8:52:59 PM PST by tessalu
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To: Micavaga; nicmarlo; pc93; Republic
I'm not sure. Can any of you answer the question in #611?
613 posted on 11/23/2003 8:53:22 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: nicmarlo
I certainly don't want to argue with the Schindlers but their account

"When Bobby arrived at their place," Bob explained, "he found Terri lying face down in the hallway, with her feet over the threshold of the doorway, as though she had been coming out of the bedroom. Her hands were clutched around her throat, and her breathing was gurgling. Michael was sitting on the couch in the living room; he was a total basket case."

And Michael's

He went out into the hall, he said, and saw Terri lying in the hallway. She was, he said, unconscious....Michael claimed that he was holding Terri in his arms when Bobby arrived.

don't agree with the police report

She was found with her head facing east out into a hallway and her feet and legs pointing west on the bathroom floor.

You would need to review the original statements of all concerned before you could argue about the placement of the body. Even the police report I read was not the original. It stated that the inititial report was on microfilm but was barely readable, so they gave a new report from memory and/or notes.

I don't have a problem believing the Schindlers...with minor changes (depending on the reporting) their story is very consistent. Michael can't seem to remember what story he told last and keeps changing. What troubles me is that even the official records aren't original.

614 posted on 11/23/2003 9:38:13 PM PST by Krodg
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To: tessalu
Your# 612

Amen and Amen!!!

Amen,.......More Grace and Mercy,......In Jesus' Precious Name, Amen!!!

615 posted on 11/24/2003 3:22:12 AM PST by maestro
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To: Micavaga
You would have to see what the guardianship law was at that time.
616 posted on 11/24/2003 3:22:30 AM PST by pc93 (Please visit http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm)
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To: Micavaga; pc93
Yes, you'd have to see what law was in place at the time; I don't have time to check the history (at the bottom of that law)......but it may lead to when/if the law in question is new or changed, and its effective date. If this law was in place, then I would have to assume it controlled the actions of MS and the Schindlers; if so, then one would have to assume there was a Motion put before a judge requesting this treatment in, perhaps, yet another case.
617 posted on 11/24/2003 5:25:15 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: T'wit
Whenever you see something from the St. Pete Times you just know it will be against Terri, this is a liberal rag.
618 posted on 11/24/2003 5:25:31 AM PST by lilypad
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To: Krodg
good catch!
619 posted on 11/24/2003 5:27:07 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: wisconsinconservative
This is the best definition of a sociopath that I've seen so far. I'd like to see if there is a link on the internet on this, as the DSM IV has gotten a little too politically correct.
620 posted on 11/24/2003 6:43:40 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (I'd rather have dead rats in my walls, than Hillary for President.,)
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