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Hillary - Democrats’ Spirit of ’04
NY Newsday ^ | November 17, 2003 | Lawrence C. Levy

Posted on 11/17/2003 7:24:52 AM PST by presidio9

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To: gridlock
For this reason and many others, not the least of which is unconfined megalomania, Hillary! will run for President in 2004.

No argument from me there.

She will announce this week. I stand by my tag-line.

You lose me there. There's no way she can go a full year without having to answer at least some questions, and no way she can go a full year without being caught in some moment that isn't totally choreographed, controlled and rehearsed by her handlers. Anytime Hillary is caught in an unscripted moment, it has disastrous results for her.

The only way she can hope to have a chance is to set up her nomination from the floor at a "brokered" DNC convention (I put brokered in quotes because this, while appearing to be a grassroots "Save us Hillary!" move, will be as carefully calculated and rehearsed as anything else she does). The last minute insertion of Frank Lautenberg in the 2002 NJ Senate race showed the Rats that, for them at least, the election "laws" are merely suggestions.

By going the brokered convention route, she's only a "candidate" for a little over a month. Again, this is a sham. She's really a candidate right now, but since the media's pretending she isn't they can avoid giving her the candidate treatment.

Even with all that, I still don't think she can beat Bush. But she can certainly delude herself into thinking she can.

21 posted on 11/17/2003 3:37:11 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: Gritty
I would be shocked if she agreed to more than one, and that one as strictly controlled and choreographed by a "neutral" Liberal.

The only way I could see Hillary agreeing to any kind of debate with Bush would be if the debate were something like that ridiculous "Rock the Vote" fiasco the Rats participated in. IOW, an event at some college in a hall packed with angry campus lefties asking questions written by the liberal network sponsoring the debate, said questions having been pre-screened by Hillary's people, of course.

22 posted on 11/17/2003 3:42:41 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: tjg
Royalty, you must be kidding!! She is white trash, and most of America knows it!! She is toast!!
24 posted on 11/17/2003 6:30:40 PM PST by international american
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To: ServesURight
You and I know that Bush is a true Christian ,and Hillary is at best an Athiest...We will prevail. But It will take good Americans like you and me, to spread the word.
25 posted on 11/17/2003 6:33:20 PM PST by international american
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To: tjg
Royalty....she is trash!! YOU are watching too much television. Take your kids bowling, and leave the rest to us.
GOD bless IA
26 posted on 11/17/2003 6:43:21 PM PST by international american
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To: CFC__VRWC
The reason I picked tomorrow for her announcement is that it is pretty much the last day she can get in to go the conventional primary election route. With Dean running so strong, I think the chances of a brokered convention without Hillary! in the primaries is pretty slim. Dean will have the vast majority of elected delegates. Unless the 'Rats want to throw all of the superdelegates to someone else, Dean will win the convention vote on the first ballot.

And if the 'Rats cut the legs out from Dean by voting the superdelegates in a block against him, especially if they do so in favor of a Clinton, it will signal the beginning of the final destruction of the Democratic Party. Not a bad outcome, that...

27 posted on 11/18/2003 3:10:27 AM PST by gridlock (Countdown to Hillary!: ONE day... Hillary! will announce for President TOMORROW, Weds. Nov 19, 2003)
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To: Baynative
Dean may be stupid, but he is not suicidal.

Who in his right mind would choose Hillary! as Vice President? The President's life expectancy would best be measured in hours...

I don't really think Hillary! considers herself to be Vice Presidential timber. There is no power in the position that has been characterized accurately as not being worth a bucket of warm spit. She had more power as First Lady.

And if she did become a successful Vice Presidential candidate, she would be shut out of a run at the Big Chair until 2012. She'll be, what, 108 years old by then? This is not acceptable...

Besides, a female VP candidate is not an historic "first". The Democrats did this before, with Geraldine Ferrarro running with Walter Mondale. That ticket got creamed, even with all the buzz about potentially having a woman a heart-beat away from the Presidency. Hillary! as VP would only serve to galvanize the opposition and would not bring sufficient support to overcome this disadvantage.

The other possibility is that Hillary! signs on as VP on what will be a doomed campaign in order to keep Dean from stomping out Clintonism and to position herself for 2008. When the ticket goes down to inevitable defeat, she can blame Dean, who will be unceremonially dumped by the 'Rats, leaving Hillary! as the undisputed head of the Democratic Party. The plus side for the Pubbies is that the electoral slaughter in 2004 will make 2002 look like a squeaker.

This last scenario has some merit. If she doesn't announce tomorrow, it will be my next leading theory. All of this is irrelevant, however, because Hillary! will announce tomorrow.

29 posted on 11/18/2003 8:17:44 AM PST by gridlock (Countdown to Hillary!: ONE day... Hillary! will announce for President TOMORROW, Weds. Nov 19, 2003)
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To: international american
I meant the press sees her as royalty, not me. I doubt anybody on earth has a lower opinion of her and her husband than I do.

Incidentally, I watch just a couple of hours of TV a week. Some weeks none at all. Maybe I'm not watching enough TV.
30 posted on 11/19/2003 11:57:55 AM PST by tjg
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To: tjg
"Incidentally, I watch just a couple of hours of TV a week. Some weeks none at all. Maybe I'm not watching enough TV"

Aw heck, a couple hours a week...with all the cable...you is doin just fine!!
Best regards, IA
31 posted on 11/20/2003 12:40:05 PM PST by international american
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To: CFC__VRWC
I don't think Hillary would have to wait till the convention to step into the election. All the other candidates entered much to soon. Even if Hillary waited until March it wouldn't be too late. I think she might enter the election sometime in spring. She's letting all the others hang themselves. This is all being orchastrated. It's no surprise to me. The top brass of the party are in control, and they belong to the Clintons.
32 posted on 11/20/2003 9:43:01 PM PST by rodeo-mamma (They sure can dish it out, but they can't take it, ain't that the truth!!!)
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