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NJ Schools Add Muslim Holiday to Day-Off List
1010 Wins ^ | Nov 14, 2003 2:38 pm US/Eastern | 1010 Wins

Posted on 11/14/2003 1:10:25 PM PST by Calpernia

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To: Calpernia
You know, these are typical liberals. Doing this just to be "cool" amongst their friends.
101 posted on 11/14/2003 8:35:36 PM PST by technomage
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To: technomage
There is a little more to it here in NJ than just being 'cool'. There are quite a few palms that get greased. I learned about that in a few meetings.
102 posted on 11/14/2003 8:38:07 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: contessa machiaveli
Public education can't be reformed. School vouchers are the answer.
103 posted on 11/14/2003 9:05:27 PM PST by fatidic
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To: VU4G10
"People of Cover"
104 posted on 11/14/2003 9:05:57 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: Major_Risktaker
"Bad Day At Black Rock"
105 posted on 11/14/2003 9:07:10 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: Calpernia
Of course, but ALL liberals that I know, deep down inside, do most everything just to be "cool" amongst their liberal friends. They NEED to prove they are part of the gang.
106 posted on 11/14/2003 9:10:59 PM PST by technomage
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To: Calpernia
will someone tell this idiot that we do not celebrate any religous holidays at all.....we celebrate "winter holiday" ....

I expect people to sue the districts about this....

IF you can't even mention Christmas for the Christmas holidays, then I sure as hell don't think any other religous group should get special recongnition....

107 posted on 11/14/2003 9:12:27 PM PST by cherry
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To: technomage
That is a good point.
108 posted on 11/14/2003 9:26:03 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: MAKnight
Irvington, NJ, is a city primarily consisting of blacks; it borders Newark and it looks like the claws of Calypso Singer Louie Farrakhan grabbed and converted a large portion of the residents to his brand of Islam.

http://www.irvington.k12.nj.us/
http://www.irvington.k12.nj.us/dist_calendar.html

NOVEMBER


4 Election Day - District Closed
6-7 NJEA Convention - District Closed
10 End of the first marking cycle (45 days)
11 Veteran's Day- District Closed
25 'Id ul-Fitr- District Closed
26-28 Thanksgiving - District Closed

109 posted on 11/14/2003 9:38:32 PM PST by Coleus (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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To: Calpernia
These people are off the wall.....I'd still send my kid to school.....even if it was closed!!!!!
110 posted on 11/15/2003 6:06:15 AM PST by geege
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To: NoGrayZone; Calpernia
Now, with Islam emerging as one of the fastest-growing religions in the United States.....

more fiction from the left

It is wrong, Islam isn't by far the fastest growing religion

From the 1991-2001 The Religious Identification Survey (Large .PDF warning)

Muslim/Islamic did double their numbers from 527,000 to 1,104,000 but in terms of % it is only an increase from 0.3% of the population to 0.5%.

A few of the Christian Religions grew more in people or % like the Catholics, Pentecostals and Evangelicals and over all while Muslims only increased by 500,000 Christians as a whole increased by 8,000,000 though as a percent of the population Christians declined nearly 10% from 86.2% to 76.5%.

The fastest growing Religion in % and numbers is of course No Religion

Atheist, Agnostics, No Religion made huge gains and went from 14,331,000 people at 8.2% of the population to 29,481,000 which 14.1% of the population

111 posted on 11/15/2003 3:27:00 PM PST by qam1 (Don't Patikify New Jersey)
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To: Calpernia
It would be more productive in the long run to just close the schools and leave them closed.
112 posted on 11/16/2003 9:24:14 AM PST by Ed_in_NJ
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To: sheik yerbouty
Excellent!
113 posted on 11/16/2003 9:27:54 AM PST by Ed_in_NJ
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To: Ed_in_NJ
What does this Allah need with a Borg cube?
114 posted on 11/16/2003 9:31:53 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: cherry
I grew up in New Jersey. In districts where any religious group is present in large numbers, you are going to have students from that group take off from school on the most important religious holidays. Making it a school holiday is a way of recognizing that a significant number of students are going to be absent and this distracts from the learning experience--better to make up the day elsewhere in the calendar.

It's a matter of practicality. My township changed from a 90% Caucasian Catholic farm-and-mill town to a much more populous suburb with a large Jewish minority. When the number of Jewish students reached a certain point, Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah were added as school holidays because so many students were absent. This is likely what has happened in Irvington. If there were 10 Jewish students in my town or only 10 Muslim students in Irvington, no one would care when they missed a day.
115 posted on 11/16/2003 9:35:46 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: Calpernia
So, if the school district created a secular day off (like "Textbook Day") and made sure it fell on Eid every year, would you stop complaining about it? That's the crux of your analogy.

Because hell would freeze over before "Winter Break" was decoupled from Christmas.

If your actual objection is to Muslim students getting the day off for a holiday when they make up large numbers in the school district--and not that the holiday's name is recognized--then find a new line of argument. Do you even live in Irvington, NJ?
116 posted on 11/16/2003 9:39:48 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: Calpernia; abn11b; Afronaut; agrace; Alberta's Child; alice_in_bubbaland; AM2000; Rummyfan; ...

Isn't multiculturalism wonderful?

117 posted on 11/16/2003 9:47:12 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Calpernia
>>>Our government was mostly founded by religious Christians.

Have you read Jefferson's writings??

A short time before his death, Jefferson, in a letter to John Adams, after commending the morals of Jesus, wrote as follows concerning his philosophical belief:

"It is not to be understood that I am with him [Jesus] in all his doctrines. I am a Materialist."

In support of his Materialistic creed, he argues as follows:

"On the basis of sensation we may erect the fabric of all the certainties we can have or need. I can conceive thought to be an action of matter or magnetism of loadstone. When he who denies to the Creator the power of endowing matter with the mode of motion called thinking shall show how he could endow the sun with the mode of action called attraction, which reins the planets in their orbits, or how an absence of matter can have a will, and by that will put matter into motion, then the Materialist may be lawfully required to explain the process by which matter exercises the faculty of thinking. When once we quit the basis of sensation, all is in the wind. To talk of immaterial existences, is to talk of nothings. To say that the human soul, angels, God, are immaterial, is to say they are nothings, or that there is no God, no angels, no soul. I cannot reason otherwise. But I believe that I am supported in my creed of Materialism by the Lockes, the Tracys, and the Stewarts."

Noting the absence of the idea of immortality in the Bible and particularly in the books ascribed to Moses, he writes:

"Moses had either not believed in a future state of existence, or had not thought it essential to be explicitly taught to the people." (Works, Vol. iv., p. 326.)



Money trail? I don't know. NJ had 181 days of instruction a year several years ago, i don't know if that changed.
118 posted on 11/17/2003 10:55:54 AM PST by JerseyHighlander (quid quid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.)
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To: JerseyHighlander
>>>Money trail? I don't know. NJ had 181 days of instruction a year several years ago, i don't know if that changed

Yes there is a money trail. I was going to get into that on this thread more. But attack of the religions jumped all over this. Even if you go back and review my posts, I was trying to steer it back to explain myself, but it was too much effort. So I shake my head and walk away.
119 posted on 11/17/2003 7:49:28 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Calpernia
no, but then again, Catholic schools don't take off for Yom Kippur either. and anyway, I am not yet aware of any Islamic schools here in the States.
120 posted on 11/19/2003 1:23:35 AM PST by SuperVillain (math is useless)
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