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To: polemikos
You now acknowledge that Pius XII helped the Jews. Good for you.

Ah, after about 10 or 15 repetitions, someone actually notices. Good for you.

We have also demonstrated that you mischaracterize evidence. While you also sidestep issues, but I'm willing to let that pass for now.

Good plan, since you'd fall on your face trying to demonstrate this.

Now, moving forward, do you acknowledge that Pius XII used his papal authority to save a large number of Jews?

Sure. Do you acknowledge that he saved most of the jews he did save through stealth and silence? Such as by forging Holy See citizenship papers? Which would make a great deal of sense, since he drafted a document between the church and Hitler to shut about the jews, along with every other politically sensitive issue?

I'm not your hand puppet, make your point if you have one, without the condescending socratic dialog, if you don't mind.


263 posted on 11/07/2003 2:46:27 PM PST by donh
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To: donh
> > We have also demonstrated that you mischaracterize evidence.

> you'd fall on your face trying to demonstrate this

This is amply demonstrated in your original response to my original post, and described in my rejoinder.

> > Now, moving forward, do you acknowledge that Pius XII used his papal authority to save a large number of Jews?

> Sure.

Wow. Further progress still.
So far, you acknowledge that Pius XII helped the Jews.
You also acknowledge that Pius XII used his papal authority for this end.

As such, do you now acknowledge that the Catholic Church acted in concert to save the Jews during the Holocaust?

> make your point if you have one

Baby steps, donh, baby steps.
268 posted on 11/07/2003 7:15:58 PM PST by polemikos (There are none so blind as those who will not see)
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