Local Doctor Plays Part in Schiavo Case

WTLV ^ | 10/16/03 | Jackie Barnard

[Ethan_Allen]

It's quite frightening isn't it? Their refusal to look at the innocent lives being destroyed in the Schindler family while they grasp at straws to defend their unGodly, unConstitutional 'rule of law' is very telling of what they have in store for us. These are not nice people. I don't care what the pubbies say.

[MSCASEY]

I believe that there is either a pay off or someone knows something about the judge. Maybe the attorney or the husband himself. There is simply no other excuse for the negligent behavior in the judges actions.

MCD

[tutstar]

I know it's awful I've seen them too.

[lakey]

Yes it's frightening. I'll tell you one thing, nobody, gets out of my house until they've heard about Terri.

[tutstar]

I signed it.....thanks for the heads up...

[lakey]

Something is going on. Wish I knew what.

Goodnight - have a busy morning scheduled.

[CindyDawg]

Yeah, I hope Terri is strong and can out-wait the JB legal team foot dragging. If it was my kid, I would take my family and friends and go get her.

[Ethan_Allen]

I agree. If they think this will blow over, I think they are sadly mistaken. I, as I'm sure you, have seen a lot of broken hearts on these threads the past few days. This is not something these (we) people are going to shrug off. The people we've seen here are the heart and soul of what built this country. I don't think the seriousness of what we are seeing is escaping many. I think they've unleashed righteousness here, their worst enemy.

[CindyDawg]

I sent a fax to GB too yesterday and haven't received any response yet. I think it's about time to call their, momma, don't you? :')

[First Amendment]

Here's one paragraph from the article you gave a link for. Pretty horrible. I am currently reading Elisabeth Kubler-Ross' last book, her autobiography. She becomes very angry at the "for profit" medical system, and got in hot water at one hospital for treating patients for free. People who worship capitalism as if it were God are wrong about some things. Capitalism is a better economic system (what to speak of political system) than communism, way better. But monetary profit is not the best motive for all human endeavors.

The article goes on to say that, "Andrew Parker of American Hospice Management said the for-profits will lead a necessary consolidation in the industry. A brochure from Parker's company states: "Hospice represents an excellent opportunity for providers in many areas of the country to enhance revenue, expand service profiles, and conserve resources." The key to making money in hospice is "volume, volume, volume," Parker says."

[Ethan_Allen]

I don't think it would do any good. They're blue-bloods, doncha know. I don't know about you, but I'm a simple serf.

[Ethan_Allen]

My fear is that poor Terri is their pre-planned precedent for that 'volume, volume, volume'.

[WFTR]

I think it's about time to call their, momma, don't you? :')

If you're speaking of Barbara Bush, you might want to think again. She's pro-abortion, so she might be on the side of removing the tube.

[CindyDawg]

nothing simple about this serf. ain't fraid of no blue bloods either:')

[CindyDawg]

She wants me to vote for the boys though.

[Ann Archy]

It's MURDER....plain, simple MURDER and Judge Geer is an accessory to her MURDEROUS husband!

[Ethan_Allen]

One of the things that bothers me most about this case is that Terri being in hospice is a flagrant violation of both state and federal law. Hospice is by law, for the terminally ill. The passage I was going to post on another thread, if I can remember which one it was, is this:

"...And the article stated, "This Spring, the [U.S.] Inspector General issued a "special fraud alert," warning that some hospices are suspected of paying kickbacks to nursing homes in order "to influence the referral of patients." In October, a federal grand jury returned the first hospice fraud indictment by charging a Chicago man with bilking the federal government by collecting more than $10 million in Medicare reimbursements while providing less than $2 million in hospice services to patients." One man, "allegedly paid nursing homes $10 a day for each patient signed up for hospice benefits ***** with the assistance of compliant doctors who certified them as terminally ill without an examination." ...." [I'm wondering if that's how Terri got admitted, which means she was planned to be terminated. I don't know if Terri was put into hospice before or after the original death sentence was handed down. Anyone know?]

I think all Terri's records need to be subpoenaed. They are required to be kept for a period of time. I think it might have been 5 years.

Another interesting passage, and I'm not sure how it relates to Terri:

(j) Standard: Meal service, menu planning, and supervision. The
hospice must--
(1) Serve at least three meals or their equivalent each day at
regular times, with not more than 14 hours between a substantial evening
meal and breakfast;
(2) Procure, store, prepare, distribute, and serve all food under
sanitary conditions;
(3) Have a staff member trained or experienced in food management or
nutrition who is responsible for--
(i) Planning menus that meet the nutritional needs of each patient,
following the orders of the patient's physician and, to the extent
medically possible, the recommended dietary allowances of the Food and
Nutrition Board of the National Research Council, National Academy of
Sciences (Recommended Dietary Allowances (9th ed., 1981) is available
from the Printing and Publications Office, National Academy of Sciences,
Washington, DC 20418); and

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Here's the federal law if anyone is interested:
http://www.hospicepatients.org/law.html

I think there's a lot of hear-no-evil, see-no-evil going on here.

[fatidic]

Severely mentally disabled children are next on Greer's "to kill" list.

[MarMema]

Here is a letter I sent to the Washington POst about it. I hope it is good enough to be used.

Florida the Death State

My proposal is to rename the former Sunshine State as the Death State. I think this is a solid proposal since the state of Florida now agrees that brain damage is a reason for someone to be dehydrated to death.

Terminal dehydration, as the medical community calls it, is a horrid, slow, agonizing death for the non-terminal, disabled people who are forced to endure it. Very soon, the recognition of this fact will cause the general population in this country to agree to euthanasia by injection. Physicians in various states are even now testing this barrier by injecting curare derivatives or potassium chloride into patients, patients who have not requested help in dying, and whose families have not requested death for the person killed. To the best of my knowledge, charges have only occasionally been filed against these physicians, in spite of the their having taken matters of life and death into their own hands.

Quite some time ago a very wise man once said this, ""The physician should and may do nothing else but preserve life. Whether it is valuable or not, that is none of his business. If he once permits such considerations to influence his actions, the doctor will become the most dangerous person in the State". Little did this German physician, Christopher Hufeland, realize at the time how prophetic his words would become in his own country..

Currently pediatric specialists in Boston are proposing in medical journals that we need not wait until death has occurred in order to harvest organs from a patient. (Sept, 2003, Critical Care) I am sure it is difficult to see those useful organs being "wasted" in brain damaged and dying children every day. Nonetheless, we must make a small attempt, at least, to restrain ourselves from rushing to kill our own population of "useless eaters". Otherwise we will then join Florida as a society of marchers in the Culture of Death.

[MarMema]

I meant to ping you as well to my above letter post.