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Hillary Clinton Will Finish Third In Iowa, Behind Bernie Sanders and O'Malley. Here's Why
The Huffington Post Huffpost Politics The Blog ^ | December 4, 2015 | H. A. Goodman

Posted on 12/07/2015 11:31:23 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

There's a reason Hillary Clinton finished third in the 2008 Iowa Caucus, behind Barack Obama and John Edwards. In addition to her costly vote supporting the war in Iraq, Clinton has always pleaded "guilty" to being a moderate. It's this centrism (even when progressive values are now popular throughout the nation) that fuels questions about why she opposed gay marriage or as The Huffington Post writes, accepted "$133,246 to the Ready for Hillary PAC" from major prison lobbyists.

The Iowa Caucus was once labeled as part of the Democratic Party's "extremes" by Hillary Clinton in a recently disclosed State Department email. However, there's nothing extreme about championing progressive values, even when they're not popular. Bernie Sanders has a history defending progressive principles, while Clinton has consistently veered to the right on war, foreign policy, trade, and even marijuana legislation.

There's also nothing extreme about opposing Keystone XL, but Clinton once supported the pipeline. NBC News writes "she helped lay the foundation for it as secretary of state." As quoted in The Nation, Clinton was once "inclined" to approve Keystone and even stated, "We're either going to be dependent on dirty oil from the Gulf or dirty oil from Canada."(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at huffingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Arkansas; Florida; Iowa; Maryland; New York; Texas; Vermont; Campaign News; Issues; Parties; Polls
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1 posted on 12/07/2015 11:31:23 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Other than a few committed lesbian feminists, is there anyone that really wants Hillary to be President?

Most Democrats that I know say they are going to vote for her because she is going to be the Democrat nominee, not because they want her to be the Democrat nominee.


2 posted on 12/07/2015 11:44:32 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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middle aged women in big cities. Don’t understand how they side with HRC


3 posted on 12/07/2015 11:59:53 AM PST by bob_esb
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December thus far for Hillary / Bernie / NRA topics:
4 posted on 12/07/2015 12:02:27 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet. HuffPo Bloviator writes:
There's a reason Hillary Clinton finished third in the 2008 Iowa Caucus, behind Barack Obama and John Edwards. In addition to her costly vote supporting the war in Iraq, Clinton has always pleaded "guilty" to being a moderate. It's this centrism (even when progressive values are now popular throughout the nation) that fuels questions about why she opposed gay marriage or... accepted "$133,246 to the Ready for Hillary PAC" from major prison lobbyists. The Iowa Caucus was once labeled as part of the Democratic Party's "extremes" by Hillary Clinton in a recently disclosed State Department email. However, there's nothing extreme about championing progressive values, even when they're not popular.
By "progressive" is meant "anti-American radical".


5 posted on 12/07/2015 12:04:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: bob_esb

I sure don’t see crowds of minorities and college kids lining up for the chance to vote for Hillary like they did for Obamanation.

On the other hand, whether the Republican candidate is Trump or Cruz, I do expect crowds of voters to line up for the chance to vote against Hillary.

If the Republican candidate is Bush, then I predict an historic low voter turnout.


6 posted on 12/07/2015 12:10:37 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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It's this centrism (even when progressive values are now popular throughout the nation)

I remember clearly the time, just a few short years ago, when the Huffington Post informed their readers that "progressive values" are not at all popular throughout the nation.

Oh, wait a minute, no I don't...

7 posted on 12/07/2015 12:14:54 PM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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Bernie Sanders: Climate Change is Directly Related To Terrorism


by Michelle Fields
Nov 14, 2015

"In fact, climate change is directly related to the growth of terrorism," said Sanders.

"And if we do not get our act together and listen to what the scientists say, you're going to see counties all over the world...they're going to be struggling over limited amounts of water, limited amounts of land to grow their crops, and you're going to see all kinds of international conflict."

Sanders said at the second Democratic debate in Iowa that climate change poses the biggest threat to America's national security and to security of the world. ..."

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/14/bernie-sanders-climate-change-directly-related-terrorism/

8 posted on 12/07/2015 12:15:45 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you check out this article on the HuffPost you’ll see that the loonie left is all in for Bernie. They correctly see Hitlery as a Wall St/Big Bank tool. Too bad their “solution” is always more wackoism.

I know a fair number of liberals and only maybe one or two of them are happy with Hitlery. The Rats are in far worse trouble than you would guess from watching the MSM.


9 posted on 12/07/2015 12:29:51 PM PST by Seruzawa (All those memories will be lost,in time, like tears in rain.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

The rabid communist leftists at Dummie Underground refuse to vote for her. They have harder hitting comments about her than you will even find here. Of course, they also think that Bernie Sanders will actually win but that is not the point.

The point is that Hitlery will NOT energize the lefty base. She will NOT turn out the black vote. She will NOT turn out the last of the blue color conservative dummycrats (think coal miners and Teamsters).

What is left? Not much. A handful of butch dykes will not win an election.

Keep a careful eye on Dummycrat turnout during the primaries. I predict it will non-existent whereas the Republicans will turn out in much higher numbers. We actually have a choice of candidates and some are even conservatives this time!


10 posted on 12/07/2015 1:06:10 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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middle aged women in big cities. Don’t understand how they side with HRC

Eight years ago they were young women who likely supported Obama because he was black. Having learned nothing from the eight year disaster that "feel good" affirmative action politics gave us, they are poised to do it again.

11 posted on 12/07/2015 1:28:20 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (The only fiscally sound thing dems ever did: create a state run media they don't have to pay for)
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12 posted on 12/07/2015 5:06:37 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Bernie, maybe, but Marty?

Mike O'Malley has a better chance of being the nominee than Littlefinger.

13 posted on 12/07/2015 5:11:11 PM PST by x
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