Posted on 09/11/2015 10:58:03 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Tenth farking place. Three months ago, I would have told you that a midwestern evangelical governor with Scott Walkers record could stay home in Wisconsin and never campaign and still do no worse than, say, third in Iowa.
Remember, this is supposed to be Walkers must-win early state.
Donald Trump has the support of 27 percent of Iowa likely Republican Caucus participants, with 21 percent for Ben Carson and 9 percent for U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.
This compares to the results of a July 1 survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN- uh-pe-ack) University showing Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker at 18 percent, with Trump and Carson at 10 percent each.
Today, Walker is at 3 percent, way behind in the pack. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has 6 percent of Iowa likely Republican Caucus participants, with 5 percent each for Carly Fiorina, Ohio Gov. John Kasich and U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida. No other candidate tops 4 percent, with 4 percent undecided.
Yes, thats right, Scott Walker now trails undecided. In Iowa. In fact, check the RCP poll tracker for the state and youll find that its been a solid month since hes cracked double digits there. The main cause, of course, is Trumpmania; Walker was at 22 percent in mid-July, right before Trump took off. But dont underestimate the damage Ben Carsons doing to his numbers too. The biggest takeaway from todays Q-poll is that Carsons ratings across a variety of character metrics baseline favorability, trustworthiness, whether he cares about people like you are simply phenomenal, almost unbelievably so. Heres the data on the people like you question. Mind-boggling:
Overall, Carsons favorable rating is 79/6. When Republicans are asked if hes honest and trustworthy, they split 88/4. Strong leadership qualities: 76/11. The right kind of temperament to handle an international crisis: 72/14. Iowans looooooove them some Ben Carson so much so that its a mystery how hes still trailing Trump in the race. The answer to that, I think, is twofold. First, Trumps numbers are now surprisingly good themselves for a guy who started this race with negative favorable ratings among Republicans. Hes now at 60/35 favorable, with 56 percent saying hes honest and trustworthy, 61 saying he cares about the problems of people like you darned good for a flamboyant billionaire and 52 percent saying he has the right temperament to handle an international crisis. Even so, those numbers pale next to Carsons, which brings us to the second reason for Trumps lead: At this point, hes still benefiting from name recognition in polls. Just four percent of Iowans said they hadnt heard enough about him to form an opinion yet compared to 15 percent who say so about Carson, a guy whos already participated in one national debate and has had literature promoting him in Iowa for many months. Given the way his numbers are trending, unless he has a terrible debate next week, I figure hell pass Trump in Iowa no later than a month from now.
The polls a mixed bag for Ted Cruz, the third-place finisher. On the one hand, hes sailed past Walker as the professional politician whos best positioned to win Iowa if Trump and Carson falter. On the other hand, check this out:
Cruz has spent two and a half years building the case to Republicans voters that he may be in Washington but hes not of Washington. The fact that he trails a doctor whos never run for office before by double digits suggests that that project hasnt totally succeeded. Heres another alarm for Cruz from elsewhere in the crosstabs, answering the million-dollar question of whether he truly is the second choice of voters supporting his good friend Donald. Answer: Nope. Not by a longshot.
Cruzs favorables are solid on all the metrics I mentioned above, but like everyone else in the field, theyre not quite on Carsons level. I think Team Cruz is happy with this result, assuming (not unreasonably) that Carson will sound too shaky and amateurish on policy in the long run for Iowans to take the plunge for him on caucus night, but I dont know. Carsons a smart guy; he does in fact learn from his mistakes. If I had to bet on whether a famous neurosurgeon will sound more shaky or less shaky on policy as he bones up on it and spends more time interacting with voters on the trail, Id bet on the latter. Its easy to see why Iowans might eventually abandon Trump the shtick will wear thin, the attacks on his bogus conservatism will start to bite, etc. Its not as easy to see why they might abandon Carson. The best argument against him is that hes a newbie with no experience, but look again at the second table I posted above. You really think not enough government experience is a winning attack in this climate?
Then again, I think Cruz will be just fine even if he finishes second or third in Iowa. His goal there is to prove that hes a serious threat for the nomination, especially with South Carolina and the SEC primary on the horizon afterward. If he finishes, say, second to Carson in Iowa and Trump wins New Hampshire, South Carolinians may decide that Cruz is the most viable possible compromise candidate, an anti-establishmentarian who knows Washington well enough that he wont feel at sea there if hes elected. Thats when Cruz takes off. Exit question: Can Walker come back from this? Its early, yeah, but once youve got the stink of loser on you, how likely are voters who dumped you in the first place to come back to you later?
Anti-GOPe but not liking Trump.
(I agree with you about Carson not being leadership material.)
Being part of the GOPe Walker THOUGHT those things are what mattered most...Or, he thought we didn't know the difference...
Obviously what matters most is being able to distance yourself from the corruption in Washington, not embrace it...
OK, then. If you’re not interested in defunding the left, I can’t explain it to you.
and under budget.
Walker is done as a Presidential candidate.
Hopefully there will still be a viable conservative in the race when Illinois votes. I don’t think Carson is especially qualified and I’ve said so but voters don’t seem to be interested in the qualification, so I’d take him.
Rick Perry had the good sense to drop out today.
You’re not voting for Cruz ? By the time the primary is held in IL (6 months from next Tuesday, 3/15), Trump will probably have it locked up.
If they hadn’t written an article about it, nobody would’ve noticed.
Perry just dropped out.
Now is the time to knock out the establishments strongest candidates.
Oh but Cruz is only at 9%, so he’s “done” too, right? It’s only September but everyone is “done” expect for Trump, right? My choice is Trump or go F myself? Right? I mean you’re telling me Trump will have won already by March so I may as well just write in “Daffy Duck” for the all difference it will make, right?
El Jebbe’s candidacy is on life support. Delivering the death blow to Gary Condit’s Eskimo Bro Kasich is paramount.
Far reaching bad, considering Walker wore knee pads all over Iowa sucking up to the ethanol subsidy crowd.
Dude ! All I asked is if you were voting for Cruz ! I’m still voting for Cruz. Don’t shoot me for calling the race early because Trump managed to run an almost unequaled, flawless and masterful campaign. You may not like him, but I’ve never seen someone grab the hostile establishment and the media by the throat and make them their bitch. That is something to behold with wonder and awe.
For whatever reason, no one has nominated a true swing state candidate for VP in the modern era. It’s never been fairly tested.
Kasich, Jeb, Rubio, Sandoval, Portman, Toomey — these would be a fair test.
Except those are all RINOs.
at this point we should be picking two candidates for nomination. If it boils down to a trump cruz race, everyone wins.
We are going to have to win this election without the Hispanic vote. We need every white and black vote we can manage. I know he won’t convince them all. The thing is though, he doesn’t need to convince them all. He only needs to convince just enough of them and only in a few key battle ground states and only in a few key counties. I like Ted Cruz but I like winning more. Whatever it takes.
Because you have to fight every day and show that you understand what you’re fighting for and why you’re doing it. Walker cannot articulate any real commitment to anything that hasn’t been focus-grouped.
Correction. He went after all public sector unions except for the police union.
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