[Hildy]

You can't have boy scouts on public land, but you can fund a school for 100 gay students. Hmm.

[avg_freeper]

The California highway system is a benefit paid for by the citizens of California and managed by the state. Based on this decision shouldn't they have to keep any one with a religious belief off the highways?

Taken to it's natural conclusion I would think that people of any faith would need to be evicted from the state of California or at least put in to concentration camps where they can been reeducated.

No, I'm not being facetious. That must be the result of these types of rulings. Either members of a religion can use public resources or they can’t. There is no middle ground.

It seems to me that California has decided to delineate between accepted and disapproved groups as far as whether or not they can use public resources. Which in it’s self is reasonable. The state should be able to discourage those activities that are widely believed to be profane. Spatula manufacture conventions and Frisbee golf patrons are allowed to use public land but NAMBLA is not, for instance.

But the state, in this ruling, is clearly asserting that the belief in a religion is to be publicly discouraged.

If I lived in California I would be outraged. horse-pucky - I’m outraged anyway.

(I’m not saying that Frisbee golf isn’t profane)

[ZULU]

Judge NAPOLEAN Jones??? Judge NAPOLEAN Jones????


HAAAHAAAAHAAAAA!!!

Once again, liberal local courts are exercising judicial nullification of statutes and Federal Court decisions with which they disagee. I guess Judge NAPOLEAN Jones disapproves of weeding ceromonies in Balboa Park, performed by a Clergyman.

My guess is NAPOLEAN Jones is part of the Lavender Mafia, or one of their sympathizers. The overwhelming majority of normal Americans have really degenerated into a mass of gutless wimps to allow this kind of outrage and take this kind of bull sitting down.

[F16Fighter]

Shouldn't this be regarding as a REVERSE 'HATE-CRIME'??

[Quix]

WHAT UNMITIGATED MALE BOVINE PROCESSED ORGANIC MATTER FRISBEES . . .

WET.

And we have let this intimidation and upside down gerrymanding horse biscuits go on for decades!

And all the demons in hell laugh uproariously at the thought of it.

God have mercy on our idiotic culture.

[Libertina]

sued over the lease in August 2000 on behalf of a lesbian couple and an agnostic couple and their son
2 activist lesbos, 2 god-less liberals = 1000s of Boy Scouts hurt. Truly Orwellian. And democrat-like.

[Orlando]

We are in a civil war, and they (the Demons)Rats are winning via courts and law schools, and US Senate...

The War on Fathers/Men/Boys, Family and GOD continues.....
ps..the military,police,marriage....Did I say God

the suicide of fathers and boys body count is growing fast...it's almost "Broken Arrow".

vet out

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

This is clearly an abuse of power by another crackpot,religion hating,blackrobed thief!Unfit to sit on the bench.The great American Boy Scouts have every right to use that land because their parents are taxpayers.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

U.S. District Judge Napoleon Jones Jr. said the Scouts' lease of the 18-acre Camp Balboa in Balboa Park violates provisions in the U.S. and state constitutions governing the separation of church and state.

Send this judge packing to a re-education camp immediately.

There are no provisions in the Constitution of The United Staes for separation of church and State.

1st Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;...

That's it. How is this applicable to the above case other than to say the judge prohibited the free exercise of the religion chosen by the BSA?

[RonF]

O.K. So the judge interprets "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" to mean that no Government agency can sign a contract with any religious agency, or grant it any privileges. Take this to it's logical and by no means extreme conclusion, and you'll see the property tax exemption taken from all religiously affiliated organizations (churches, etc.).

So. Now, does the BSA take this up on appeal? The BSA has never lost in the Supreme Court. I think that the judge has this wrong on the merits on the law.

[El Gato]

Jones said the Boy Scouts are a religious organization because the Scouts require members to profess a belief in God

They are also a Congressionally chartered organization, like the American Legion or the Veterans of Foreign Wars. In case the judge never noticed. The Supreme Court and Congress start their sessions with a prayer, does that make them unconstitutional as well? The Scouts don't attempt to tell anyone which God to believe in, or for that matter to even believe in God, just to do their duty to God, as they the individual sees it. There are scout organizations affilliated with virtually all religions, including dozens of Christian denominations from Baptists to Prebyterians, African Methodist Ephicapilians to Mormons (and stopping by the Seventh Day Adventists on the way) , the Baha'i Faith, various branches of Judahism, various branches of Islam, Budhists, Hindus and others.

The "requires belief in God must come from these two requirments:

Scout Oath (or Promise)
On my honor I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight.

or this part of the Scout Law

REVERENT
A Scout is reverent toward God. He is faithful in his religious duties. He respects the beliefs of others.

That last is really bad isn't it? "Respects the beliefs of others."

Of course the real beef with the Boy Scouts is their stand on homosexuality. Plus maybe a little of their stand on firearms and firearms training

[FlatLandBeer]

Wasn't their a ruling that stated that so long as ALL groups are allowed to make the same arraingements then it was allowed.
For example the renting of school autoriums to churches.

[Dr Warmoose]

So we have a racist "judge" who rules from the Communist Manifesto (there is no "Separation of Church & State" in the US Constitution) that people who have signed a lawful contract and pay a lease have no rights to use the property they are improving and paying maintenance dues.

Ironically, the Atheistic and Marxist ACLU has no problems using the court rooms freely to lay the iron boot on decent people. Membership in the Boy Scouts is not like Nazi Youth, NAMBLA or The Crypts. Better to keep the park available for gay sex cruising, the godless urban outdoorsmen, and what-not.

Meanwhile Sodomites and S&M freaks can use the city streets freely for their parades.

[CharliefromKS]

I love that the Boy Scouts are now all of a sudden public enemy #1. I can't imagine why that would be. < /sarcasm>

[MEGoody]

"U.S. District Judge Napoleon Jones Jr."

Napoleon Jones???????

[SandRat]

U.S. District Judge Napoleon Jones Jr. said the Scouts' lease of the 18-acre Camp Balboa in Balboa Park violates provisions in the U.S. and state constitutions governing the separation of church and state.

And what part of the SCOTUS Decision or Constitution does he not understand?

Let's see the Scouts have had it for how long after being given it for their use by a private citizen and how much improvement have they made, all done with private money?

Sounds to me like the judge needs to go back to law school on both constitutional law and tort law.

[VOA]

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