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Seeing the Slip
NRO ^ | 4/14/03 | Stanley Kurtz

Posted on 04/14/2003 12:42:18 PM PDT by HumanaeVitae

Last month, in "Heather Has 3 Parents," I wrote about a Canadian law suit that clearly reveals the slippery slope on which we shall surely be set by legalized same-sex marriage. A court in London, Ontario has been asked to declare three people the legal parents of a single child (the biological mother and father, and the lesbian partner of the natural mother). Since conception, the sexual relationship appears to have been confined to the lesbian partners, both of whom live with the child. Yet the biological father, a close friend of the biological mother and her partner, frequently visits the child's home. All three adults consider that they are sharing the duties of parenthood.

This case is immensely significant, because it could easily and obviously lead to the effective abolition of marriage. Once multiple parents gain legal status, the way to group marriage is cleared, and marriage itself is effectively replaced by a system of infinitely flexible contracts involving any number (and gender) of adults. That, in turn, would radically undermine the ethos of monogamy, leading to further instability in marriage, and tragedy for our children.

Last week, a judge in London, Ontario reluctantly turned down the application to grant legal status to three parents. Yet the case may be appealed, and the judge's decision is both complicated and revealing.

As in the initial hearing, Family Court Justice David Aston declared that he would like to have granted the petitioner's application, if only he had the power. By his own account, the only reason this judge held back from granting legal parenthood of a single child to three adults is that he lacked the jurisdiction under the relevant law. That, and the fact that the petitioners may soon appeal this decision, shows that there is still every reason to fear that triple parenting will soon be granted legal status in Canada.

Yet, despite his claim that he would have decided for the petitioners if he could have, a new element appeared in Justice Aston's decision. Justice Aston clearly grasped the immense implications of the case before him when he said, "If a child can have three parents, why not four or six or a dozen? What about all the adults in a commune or a religious organization or a sect?"

That statement by Justice Aston can be read in two ways. On the one hand, despite his protestations of right-minded liberal sympathy for the petitioners, Justice Aston may have stayed his hand in this case because of a dawning awareness of the true implications of legalized triple parenting. That would be a very encouraging sign.

On the other hand, if Justice Aston seriously meant that, despite the likelihood that legalized multiple parenthood (and eventually, multiple marriage), would follow from his decision, he would prefer to have found for the petitioners, then we have proof that our judges are determined to tear to pieces the family as we know it, regardless of the consequences.

In either case, the deadly reality of slippery-slope arguments in gay family law has at last been publicly and formally acknowledged by a judge. That is the real significance of this case.

The open and obvious implications of this particular case for the family are really no different than the implications of gay marriage itself. The grounds on which gay marriage is being granted (e.g. the right of all Vermonters to "equal benefits" under the Vermont constitution) cannot help but lead to the legalization of polygamy and group marriage. If homosexual couples are entitled to equal benefits from the state, why aren't polyamorists?

This case also reveals the characteristic danger to the traditional family posed by legalized lesbian marriage. Most discussions of gay-marriage focus on the potential dangers of male homosexual promiscuity to the ethos of monogamy. Advocates of gay marriage argue that legal marriage will reduce gay male promiscuity. Critics note that the effect could easily work in reverse — male homosexual couples might marry, while nonetheless openly repudiating monogamy. That would undermine traditional understandings of marriage for everyone — a result that many gay thinkers actually hope for. Lesbian couples, on the other hand, tend toward monogamy. This is sometimes said to balance out the potentially subversive effects of gay male marriage.

The triple-parenting case, however, shows that lesbian same-sex marriage will likely be every bit as subversive of the traditional family as gay male marriage. True, this particular lesbian couple may or may not have applied for triple-parenting status had legal same-sex marriage already been available. Yet the relative prevalence of lesbian parenting, and the undeniable parental status of the biological father, means that an eventual application for triple parenting status by some legally married lesbian couple and a biological father-friend is inevitable. And once gay marriage itself has been granted on grounds of "equal protection" or "equal benefits," it will be impossible to deny either parental or marital status to any number of adults.

Justice Aston's example of an entire commune being declared the legal parents of a single child is particularly apt. Despite some differences, today's polyamorists (practitioners of group marriage) carry on the legacy of the Sixties communes. Those communes ran aground on the contradiction between the claim of collective sexual and parental rights, on the one hand, and the undeniable privileges of traditional parenthood on the other. Early attempts to abolish the traditional family on the Israeli kibbutz fell apart from the same contradiction. Gay marriage, and the slippery slope to group marriage that it will inevitably set us on, will force us into a slow-motion version of the kibbutz and commune crackup.

The movement for gay marriage has failed at the ballot box, yet is on the verge of winning in our courts. Only a fool would believe that the changes will stop with legalization of gay marriage itself. The triple-parenting case is a window into our inevitable future. Having learned how to expand and undermine legislative definitions of marriage and family through the courts, petitioners will present us with ever more exotic cases. The end of the line is the end of marriage — unless we wake up now. This summer, with legalized gay marriage in Massachusetts, the battle will truly be joined.


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KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualadoption; homosexualagenda; perverts; prisoners; samesexmarriage; sodomania; sodomiterights; stanleykurtz
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Before you libertarians protest, think about what 'slippery slope' argument that you guys aren't shy to deploy: "If we don't allow gay marriage/pot smoking/private ownership of Abrams tanks etc., the Next Stop Is Nazi Germany!".

Both sides have a slippery slope argument. It's just that the cultural conservatives have a valid argument.

1 posted on 04/14/2003 12:42:19 PM PDT by HumanaeVitae
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2 posted on 04/14/2003 12:43:24 PM PDT by HumanaeVitae (Tolerance is a necessary evil.)
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3 posted on 04/14/2003 12:44:54 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: HumanaeVitae
The best libertarian argument in favor of sodomy:

Thomas Jefferson on Sodomy Sect. XIV. Whosoever shall be guilty of rape, polygamy, or sodomy* with a man or woman, shall be punished; if a man, by castration, a woman, by boring through the cartilage of her nose a hole of one half inch in diameter at the least.

4 posted on 04/14/2003 12:49:43 PM PDT by Remedy
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5 posted on 04/14/2003 12:54:44 PM PDT by Remedy
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Is Same-Sex Marriage Good for the Nation?

Family Research Council & Focus on the Family Robert P. George, Counsel of Record

Pro Family Law Center Richard Ackerman, Counsel of Record

Texas Physicians Resource Council, Christian Medical and Dental Association, Catholic Medical Association Glen Lavy, Counsel of Record

Fairness, Accuracy and Honesty in Discussing Homosexuality and Marriage, by Lynne Marie Kohm & Mark A. Yarhouse is an introduction to this issue and ties in the social science articles with the law. ---Lynn Marie Kohm is the John Brown McCarty Professor of Family Law, Regent University School of Law.---Mark A. Yarhouse, is an assistant professor of psychology, Regent University School of Psychology and Counseling.

Talking Points: How Homosexual 'Civil Unions' Harm Marriage The eminent Harvard sociologist Pitirim Sorokin argued that no society has ceased to honor the institution of marriage and survived.

Same Sex Marriage: Til Death Do Us Part? Homosexual marriage is nothing like traditional marriage. Homosexual unions are not built around lifetime commitments, nor are they good environments to raise children.

Studies of Homosexual Parenting: A Critical Review, by George Rekers & Mark Kilgus illuminates the flaws of the leading social science studies on homosexual parenting and child development that are relied upon by courts, legislators, and lawyers in advocating homosexual adoption of children. ---George Rekers, a Professor of Neuropsychiatry and Behavioral Science at the University of South Carolina School of Medicine, is author of The Handbook of Child and Adolescent Sexual Problems. He was the recipient of the 2000 Sigmund Freud Award for Pioneering Research.--- Mark D. Kilgus is a board certified child and adolescent psychiatrist who presently serves as the Medical Director of Northpointe Behavioral Healthcare Systems in Michigan.

BURGER, C.J., Concurring Opinion Decisions of individuals relating to homosexual conduct have been subject to state intervention throughout the history of Western civilization. Condemnation of those practices is firmly rooted in Judeo-Christian moral and ethical standards. Homosexual sodomy was a capital crime under Roman law…. During the English Reformation, when powers of the ecclesiastical courts were transferred to the King's Courts, the first English statute criminalizing sodomy was passed…. Blackstone described "the infamous crime against nature" as an offense of "deeper malignity" than rape, a heinous act "the very mention of which is a disgrace to human nature," and "a crime not fit to be named." W. Blackstone, Commentaries . The common law of England, including its prohibition of sodomy, became the received law of Georgia and the other Colonies. In 1816, the Georgia Legislature passed the statute at issue here, and that statute has been continuously in force in one form or another since that time. To hold that the act of homosexual sodomy is somehow protected as a fundamental right would be to cast aside millennia of moral teaching.

 

 

6 posted on 04/14/2003 1:00:25 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: HumanaeVitae
Didn't Hatellary say 'it takes a village'?... I guess it takes more than two to raise a vacuous brained liberal, for sure.
7 posted on 04/14/2003 1:00:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: HumanaeVitae
Thanks for the ping.

Lefty-liberal's M.O. is interesting. It's the camel with it's nose in the tent. Soon they occupy the entire tent space.

First, homosexuals claimed they simply want to come out of the closet. Then they assert legal discrimination via civil rights laws, and become a hyphenated-voting bloc to which politicians can pander for votes and campaign contributions.

Then there's the call for approval by government fiat and the demand for legal homosexual marriages.

Now they've taken over schoolrooms and instead of students having a moment of silent prayer (praying is a crime according to lefties), they are forced to memorialize sexual perversion.

What's next? Trans-gender pledges of allegiance? In-school demonstrations of assorted sexual preferences? Bestiality and necrophilia courses?

8 posted on 04/14/2003 1:09:36 PM PDT by Liz
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9 posted on 04/14/2003 1:13:20 PM PDT by EdReform (Thank You to ALL Freepers and Lurkers who support Free Republic!)
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10 posted on 04/14/2003 1:16:35 PM PDT by Van Jenerette (Our Republic...If We Can Keep It!)
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To: HumanaeVitae
Kids are already being shuttled, under court orders, between various sets of parents and step-parents, who all have varying degrees of parental rights to the child (often varying by the day of the week!), and often with open warfare going on between some of the adults. I don't see how court endorsement of an amicable agreement between three parents, that they are all legal parents of a child, opens any floodgates.
11 posted on 04/14/2003 1:21:44 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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12 posted on 04/14/2003 1:23:24 PM PDT by scripter
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To: MHGinTN

Didn't Hatellary say 'it takes a village'?... I guess it takes more than two to raise a vacuous brained liberal, for sure.

And convince same that some are born/oriented to eat human excrement - Homosexual behavior increases risk of AIDS - Dr. Brian J. Kopp, ... An exhaustive study in The New England Journal of Medicine, medical literature's only study reporting on homosexuals who kept sexual "diaries," indicated the average homosexual ingests the fecal material of 23 different men each year.

Medical Consequences of What Homosexuals Do FECAL SEX About 80% of gays (see Table) admit to licking and/or inserting their tongues into the anus of partners and thus ingesting medically significant amounts of feces. Those who eat or wallow in it are probably at even greater risk. In the diary study,5 70% of the gays had engaged in this activity--half regularly over 6 months. Result? --the "annual incidence of hepatitis A in...homosexual men was 22 percent, whereas no heterosexual men acquired hepatitis A." In 1992,26 it was noted that the proportion of London gays engaging in oral/anal sex had not declined since 1984.

13 posted on 04/14/2003 1:25:30 PM PDT by Remedy
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14 posted on 04/14/2003 1:39:14 PM PDT by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
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To: Remedy
Could it be that homosexuals have a decidely vacant knowledge of the size of microbes?... Yetch! Please, don't post this too vivid degeneracy that most reading this thread already know of. It isn't necessary, IMHO.
15 posted on 04/14/2003 1:45:18 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: Liz
First, homosexuals claimed they simply want to come out of the closet.

Actually in the "gay rights" platform in an early meeting in about '72 (I think...) they advocated all sorts of sick extremism (such as the abolition of the age of consent) but covered up their evil goals to the public at large. They wanted the sheeple to think that's all they wanted - tolerance. But in their plans they wanted to destroy society and turn it into their sick whorehouse.

16 posted on 04/14/2003 2:00:44 PM PDT by First Amendment
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Kids are already being shuttled, under court orders, between various sets of parents and step-parents, who all have varying degrees of parental rights to the child (often varying by the day of the week!), and often with open warfare going on between some of the adults. I don't see how court endorsement of an amicable agreement between three parents, that they are all legal parents of a child, opens any floodgates.

This is not a valid point. Just because so many broken marriages already exist (primarily due to lack of respect for the sanctity of marriage) and children are already being screwed up is not a good reason to allow even more desctruction of the natural family.

17 posted on 04/14/2003 2:04:06 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: HumanaeVitae
Lesbian couples, on the other hand, tend toward monogamy.

The lesbians I know (long story) are somewhat monogamous, but most of them have all "hooked-up" with everyone else in their little community at one time or another. Show me a heterosexual community like that. It is very weird. Many of them will have several "monogamous" relationships a year. I don't intend to be mean by this comment but they are really a pathetic community of misfits and victims looking for a place to belong. They don't need marriage, recognition, children, etc....; they need therapy.

18 posted on 04/14/2003 2:37:48 PM PDT by RAT Patrol
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….Ingestion of feces? Guess they wash it down with some man-milk. eeewww. 7 posted on 01/10/2003 11:45 AM EST by 11B3
19 posted on 04/14/2003 4:26:12 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
Doc, that's unnecessarily gross.
20 posted on 04/14/2003 5:56:31 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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