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Parent Alleges Harassment for Exposing 'Fistgate'
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 2/06/03 | Lawrence Morahan

Posted on 02/07/2003 4:24:38 AM PST by kattracks

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To: madg; Right Wing Professor
And the "public employees" were not acting in that capacity... they had volunteered their own time.

These were child abusers, and should never have been public employees to begin with.

61 posted on 02/07/2003 1:47:49 PM PST by yendu bwam
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To: kattracks
I hate to say it but if I were this guy and I had lawyers from a homosexual advocacy group after I'd be practicing 3 sigma on them.
62 posted on 02/07/2003 1:48:13 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: madg
Why should the contents of a PRIVATE conference be made public?

Because it's in the public interest? The 'right to privacy' of adults who wish to discuss sex with young teens is not a right I recognize. Do you believe that what goes in in Michael Jackson's bedroom with his little chums is private also?

63 posted on 02/07/2003 1:50:01 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: yendu bwam
Dear Lord, I pray for the children who ended up at this fistgate conference. I pray that somehow, somewhere, they might learn of your design for human sexuality - that they might learn that men and women are beautifully designed for each other - and that they are designed to be able to bring new human life into this world. I pray that they come to understand that the ability to create new human life is an incredible privilege. I pray that they come to understand that those who would encourage them to involve themselves in acts involving other people's feces and rectums are destructive, harmful, dangerous - to both body and soul. I pray that someone love them enough to pull them away from this awful and perverted path. I pray that they come to understand that using each others' bodies this way is not loving. I pray that they be pulled up out of the sewer which others have encouraged them to wade in. I pray that they know Thine love. Amen.
65 posted on 02/07/2003 2:07:28 PM PST by yendu bwam
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To: madg
And how is it in the "public interest?" When Yendu tells Yendu Jr. the facts of life, how is it "public interest?" And if a parent signs a permission slip allowing THEIR child to go to a private conference, how is that "public interest?"

So you don't think that sexual activity involving underaged children, with or without the consent of the parents, is a matter of public interest? Jacko claims the kids he goes to bed with are there with their parents' knowledge and permission. So that's all right, is it?

I don't tell people how to raise their kids... it's none of my business.

I do tell people (through my representatives) how to raise their kids. I tell them they can't injure them, starve them or sexually molest them. I tell them they have to send them to school. Etc.

Illegal interception of oral communications, on the other hand, IS a matter of public interest.

It varies from state to state. In this state, for example, it's entirely legal to tape a meeting at which one is present.

66 posted on 02/07/2003 2:14:46 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: madg
Why don't you organize a little tour and send these wonderful public servants down here to Texas and see how far they get with their discussions on "sex". The fact that you're even attempting to rationalize this perversity makes me wonder just how twisted you are also.
68 posted on 02/07/2003 2:49:21 PM PST by american spirit
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To: madg
Homosexual behavior increases risk of AIDS - Dr. Brian J. Kopp, ...

Public health records demonstrate that homosexuals, representing 2 percent of America's population, suffer vastly disproportionate percentages of several of America's most serious STDs, with incidences among homosexuals of diseases like gonorrhea, syphilis, hepatitis A and B, cytomegalovirus, shigellosis, giardiasis, amoebic bowel disease and herpes far exceeding their presence in the general population. These are due to common homosexual practices that include fellatio, anilingus, digital stimulation of the rectum and ingestion of urine and feces.

An exhaustive study in The New England Journal of Medicine, medical literature's only study reporting on homosexuals who kept sexual "diaries," indicated the average homosexual ingests the fecal material of 23 different men each year. The same study indicated the number of annual sexual partners averaged nearly 100. Homosexuals averaged, per year, fellating 106 different men and swallowing 50 of their seminal ejaculations, and 72 penile penetrations of the anus. (Corey, L, and Holmes, K.K., "Sexual Transmission of Hepatitis A in Homosexual Men," New England Journal of Medicine, 1980, vol 302: 435-438; as quoted in "Homosexuality and Civil Rights," Tony Marco, 1992).


A study by McKusick, et al., of 655 San Francisco homosexuals reported that only 24 percent of the sample claimed to have been "monogamous" during the past year, and of this 24 percent, 5 percent drank urine, 7 percent engag-ed in sex involving insertion of a fist in their rectums, 33 percent ingested feces, 53 percent swallowed semen and 59 percent received semen in their rectums in the month just previous to the survey ("AIDS and Sexual Behavior Reported by Homosexual Men in San Francisco," American Journal of Public Health, December 1985, 75: 493-496; quoted in "Homosexuality and Civil Rights," Tony Marco, 1992).


Lesbians show similar patterns of high venereal disease incidence relative to the general population. They are 19 times more likely to have had syphilis, twice as likely to have had genital warts, four times as likely to have had scabies, seven times more likely to have had infection from vaginal contact, 29 times more likely to have had oral infection from vaginal contact and 12 times more likely to have had an oral infection from penile contact ("Medical Aspects of Homosexuality," Institute for the Scientific Investigation of Sexuality, 1985, Jaffe and Keewhan, et al.; quoted in "Homosexuality and Civil Rights," Tony Marco, 1992).

AIDS research by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control reported that the typical homosexual interviewed claimed to have had more than 500 different sexual partners in a lifetime. Considered by themselves, the AIDS victims in this study averaged more than 1,100 lifetime sexual partners. Some reported as many as 20,000. Studies reported by A-P. Bell, M.S. Weinberg and S.K. Hammersmith in the book "Sexual Preference" (Bloomington, Indiana University Press, 1981) indicated that only 3 percent of homosexuals had fewer than 10 lifetime sexual partners. Only about 2 percent could be classified as either monogamous or semi-monogamous (from "Homosexuality and Civil Rights," Tony Marco, 1992).

69 posted on 02/07/2003 2:57:29 PM PST by Remedy
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To: american spirit
Long, long ago (actually in the mid-1980s), I had a heated discussion with my boss (a right-wing, gun-loving, conservative Republican woman, whose two sons were police officers)about permitting homosexuals to teach in the public schools. I was for it at the time. She wasn't. I said Why? She said because they will indoctrinate and recruit. I said "Oh, please...Do you really BELIEVE that?"

I guess she proved me wrong. In fact, I know she proved me wrong.
70 posted on 02/07/2003 2:58:09 PM PST by ladylib
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To: kattracks
What's next after "Fisting 101," "Gerbils 101?" You know gay guys put a gerbil in a toilet paper tube with duct tape and insert it into each other's anus and they enjoy the "pleasurable sensations" of the gerbil wiggling around inside their anus. Of course the gerbil often dies, so where's the outrage from PETA? Oh, perhaps a lot of PETA members are also gay, a little conflict of interest there, I guess? Once gay men stretch their anus so much that they can no longer control their bowels, they have to "plug" it up, with what is appropriately called a "butt plug." So don't ever slap a gay guy on the back, you might dislodge his butt plug. Gays often get a free pass from straight society because people just don't want to hear about these sick perversions, so they hide their heads in the sand. But when it comes to their kids, they better wake up.
71 posted on 02/07/2003 2:58:29 PM PST by Contra
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To: ladylib
Understand completely...sad thing is if we had an objective, courageous national media and political structure the gay movement would be relegated to the dustbin of history. Add to that the cowardice displayed by most 501C-3 pastors who know the truth but are so in love with their tax exempt status that they refuse to attack this issue head-on. The good thing is they all will have to answer to a higher authority some day who will show them error of their ways.
72 posted on 02/07/2003 3:11:18 PM PST by american spirit
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To: madg
"The discussion may have been a little over-the-top, but not by much."

Are you Barney Frank by any chance? Come on, fess up.

73 posted on 02/07/2003 3:49:27 PM PST by bribriagain
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To: madg
My oh my, we have a bona fide GLSEN/NAMBLA paid shill here, obsessed with wiretap laws only. It's good to know you're such an upstanding Ammurrican citizen, such a champeen of the rule of law, that psychological coercion by Perverts against young malleable minds, that abuse of power by older "adults" should never bring the wiretap laws into question. Why let the psyches of youth who look to adults for protection get in the way of common sense, right?

Apparently there's no law on the books about corrupting minors either. What's that, you say? There ARE? Then make your mind which is the priority-someone breaking a wiretap law or the spirit of a child.
74 posted on 02/07/2003 3:54:18 PM PST by JoJo Gunn
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To: Contra
"so they hide their heads in the sand."

From the nature of your post, homos may have enough room to hide their heads in anothe place as well.

75 posted on 02/07/2003 3:55:36 PM PST by bribriagain
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To: kattracks
Seems to me that two can play that game.
Hasn't anybody sued (or counter-sued) the perverts, pedophiles, and sodomites who conducted this "fisting workshop"? Were there minors present, thereby inviting "corruption of minors" charges?

Or is there no such thing as "corruption of minors" in that sick toilet, Massachusetts?

76 posted on 02/07/2003 3:56:12 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Tunehead54
Check's in the mail.....thanks for the info!
77 posted on 02/07/2003 4:00:43 PM PST by mickie
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To: madg
Here's a thread you should check out:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/838214/posts


I am sure you will agree that it is a terrible shame what they are doing to this poor man. He is, after all, "simply a man who loves boys".
79 posted on 02/07/2003 4:06:45 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: JoJo Gunn
Does the end justify the means?

Should conservatives break the law in order to expose a disgusting behavior?

Even if breaking the law was the only avenue available to shine a light on this darkness, was it necessary being so upfront about breaking the law?

I’m having a hard time making my mind about this article. If I had decided to make illegal, surreptitious recordings, I would have send the tape to a friendly reporter anonimously .

Being so blatant about breaking the law, these conservative parents have reduced the effectiveness of their message.

80 posted on 02/07/2003 4:19:40 PM PST by LO_IQ
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