Posted on 09/24/2002 4:22:36 PM PDT by SheLion
This statement assumes that rights, in this case the right to operate a business, are granted by government. That is incorrect.
Rights do not flow from government. See the Declaration of Independence for a discussion of this concept.
Well, why do you hang out with them!
Not where we live. Everyone is treated like family.
No he doesn't smell like an ashtray! He's very articulate about himself, thank you.
Why don't you find another thread to play in and leave decent people alone.
My point exactly - because there are laws forbidding someone from openning an all smoking establishment.
In the absence of force, in this case by government, people could choose to eat at such establishments or not. If people were interested in standardization of conditions, private rating/approval services would spring up to fill the demand. The UNDERWRITERS LAB, STANDARD AND POORS, GOODHOUSEKEEPING SEAL, DUFF AND PHELPS AND INSURANCE UNDERWRITERS businesses are examples.
The government has taken those resposibilities over, at gunpoint if necessary, in the example of resturants. They do a poor job, predictably. <p.I'm glad you offered my an opportunity to introduce those to you. Civil society works better than government society based on force.
That may be permissible where you live but that is not allowable in the state of Delaware. And that is under the current law, even before the insidious total ban goes into effect in November.
The only exceptions there are to the Delaware Ban are for organizations running charitable fund raisers.
As explained previously, governments have no rights. Governments have power. People have rights. Try to memorize that.
Good advice, for yourself. Please point me to the parts of the constitution which make your point about who has rights and who has powers. Thank you
PS, I have previously asked you to direct me to the place where you said "You can look it up". I am still waiting.
Opposing assinine regulations on business owners does not mean I am not a law abiding person.
You gave no indication this person was smoking in a non permitted location. Your indication was just that someone lit up and you grabbed the cigarette and stomped it out. While your behavior was boorish and rude, if the smoker lit up in a non-permitted location it is slightly acceptable. However, if it was a smoking permitted area you were beyond rude and totally out of line.
If so, you'd be better off staying at home, close to the TV and the ash tray.
That was an extremely out of line comment. Your boorishness suggests you might be the one who should be staying home, close to the TV.
And it matters not a BIT even if ALL the employees are smokers.
I'm sorry, but you are incorrect again. It only works in some places. Most of the thugs who pass such laws also mandate what constitutes a "members only" establishment. Which is an additional problem with these rights violating laws, they require additional government intrusion to make them work.
That is what makes the Delaware law even worse than California - that even is not permitted.
Fraternal organizations (Elks, Moose, etc) Volunteer Fire Companies and Veterans Groups are theonly ones permitted to permit smoking - and only if they are conducting a fundraiser.
Of course any function at any of these locations is always a fund raiser. The increas in membership of the Moose and Elks has been unbelieveable.
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