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[Just another Joe]

On the other side will be anti-smoking crusaders, including city Health Commissioner Thomas Frieden, who said secondhand smoke kills up to 11,000 New Yorkers every year.
"Call me naive, but I really do think that telling people the truth works," said Frieden, who has prepared an 18-page briefing book on secondhand smoking for City Council members. "The bottom line is, secondhand smoke kills."

Then I wonder why he DOESN'T tell the truth?
Could it be because the truth WOULDN'T work for HIM?

[SheLion]

"Call me naive, but I really do think that telling people the truth works," said Frieden, who has prepared an 18-page briefing book on secondhand smoking for City Council members. "The bottom line is, secondhand smoke kills."

Ahhhh Thomas Frieden! Prepared "his own 18-page book on second hand smoke." I bet THAT'S a goody!

I think "I" will prepare an 18 page book on THOMAS FRIEDEN! I am SURE I have enough information ON this ANTI by now!

[SheLion]

Thomas FREIDEN never seen the two reports/studies??

Federal Court Rules Against EPA on Secondhand Smoke

I think Freiden, who tries to dismiss the findings of the U.S. Department of Energy labs at Oak Ridge, should be confronted with the question: "Are you saying that DOE researchers committed scientific fraud and that their findings on ETS exposure are untrue?" I'd like to see what he would say in response to that question.

Environmental Tobacco Smoke Study

[Madame Dufarge]

and anti-smoking forces trying to match them.

Well, since none of the "anti-smoking health advocates" have real jobs outside of pestering and hectoring others for a quick and easy buck, I imagine they won't have any trouble with their struggle to match the bar owners.

I hope a brawl breaks out, to be honest.

[I'm_With_Orwell]

"Call me naive, but I really do think that telling people the truth works,"

Ah, yes. The first rule of propaganda is to never waiver in asserting the truth of the lies you are spreading.

11,000 NY'ers p.a. killed by SHS? What a load of horse droppings.

[I'm_With_Orwell]

Health Commissioner Thomas Frieden,...said secondhand smoke kills up to 11,000 New Yorkers every year

Yeah, right! According to the City Health Department of New York, there were 41,135 deaths from things which anti's attribute to smoking (heart disease, cancer, influenza and pneumonia) in NYC in the year 2000.

If we assume that 25% of those who died were smokers or ex-smokers (a conservative figure), that leaves 30,851 deaths.

Mr Frieden would therefore have us believe that SHS exposure causes 35.7% of all deaths from those causes in non-smokers in NYC each year.

What a #@!&#)@!!!!