Bill Aims to Ban Workplace Smoking

Newsday | 9/17/02 | J. Palmer

[strider44]

I do go out there sometimes. I also find other ways to rebel, like going up to a gameroom we having and playing ping pong! Don't get me wrong, I don't hate smokers, But I think making them smoke outside is the right decision. You have to admit that filling up a confined space with smoke is going to bother many people. A bar is totally different. That's a social situation and any idot should know that smoking and drinking go hand in hand. I smoke about 5 cigars a year, always outside though, and usually during a poker game. Question:do you think there should be a finite amount of smoke breaks a worker should be allowed? during a typical 8-hour workday?

[Publius6961]

People who smoke are uniformly dumb and often inconsiderate, but that is no reason to usurp the property rights of private businesses.

You do realize what an idiot this statement makes you look like every time you make it...?
But then no one ever accused tiny controlling twits of access to expansive knowledge...

[johnny7]

I like that! Free-enterprise!

Best breakfast place in our hemisphere... The Purple Cow. South of Billings MT.

Big breakfast includes; 6 pancakes, 6 eggs, home-fries, a pitcher of coffee and a pitcher of orange juice.

$6.00... back in 1989. :^D

[Tazman70]

http://www.canadian-health-network.ca/faq-faq/tobacco-tabagisme/8e.html

[strider44]

Exactly right Badray. It's all about your rights as a private citizen. The government has no right to enforce smoking laws in private establishments. End of story. No one is forced to either work in or go to a bar/restaurant. However, if a private place of employment wants to ban smoking indoors, then that is their right too.

[Protagoras]

but please, keep it to yourself. I dont want to breath it anymore than you want to breath my farts.

If you don't want to breathe it, don't go to businesses where it is allowed.

And if people are able to pass gas in public, why aren't you advocating a law against breaking wind?

BTW, the stench of tyranny is far worse than either of the gaseous offences you are talking about.

[johnny7]

You're OK kid. I'm a big time Bogey fan. Never cared much for FDR.

[Badray]

"Does the restaurant owner have the right to serve tainted meat?"

Do you have the right to serve up strawmen? The more appropriate question is: Does the owner have the right to sell badly seasoned food or ridiculously small portions at extravagant prices? The answer is yes, although he likely will not not stay in business very long. But there are plenty of people who want to enjoy a smoke with or after their meals and the government should not be allowed to interfere with his rights to run his business to suit his customers.

[Gabz]

This isn't so much about your right to smoke or his right to a smoke free environment. It's about the right of the business owner to run his business as he sees fit. If you don't like his policies, go to another restaurant.

Exactly. But take it a step further and tell the business owner why you will be going elsewhere - instead of running to the government to solve your problem - because you know what, government interference just causes further problems.

[Protagoras]

Socialist Canadian websites which post no science to back up their many statements is precisely the kind of junk science I was talking about.

[Tazman70]

Because breaking wind has not been found to cause harm to anyone. I agree it is offensive, but not harmful like second hand smoke.

[SheLion]

Just because they smoke, they get these built-in breaks. Very annoying.

Where my hubby works, they usually go out once an hour. IF they aren't busy. If they are busy, they don't go.

The non smokers go right with them. Gives them all a time to socialize, breath fresh air, and take a 10 minute stretch. IF they aren't busy.

[Sloth]

But then no one ever accused tiny controlling twits of access to expansive knowledge...

How am I "controlling"?

[Protagoras]

BTW, I asked for science, not websites which have the same opinion as you. Those are a dime a dozen.

[KS Flyover]

I dont want to breath it anymore than you want to breath my farts.

Tazman70

[Sloth]

Care to reconcider that comment?

Not really. BTW, you misspelled 'reconsider.'

[johnny7]

Go bite a fart... you know how to do that don't you? ;^D

[Gabz]

Does the restaurant owner have the right to serve tainted meat?

Mixing apples and oranges again I see.

[Tazman70]

You are just in denial, read the article, the science is there. You dont have any scientific evidence jesus crist lived but you know he did right?

[Protagoras]

Because breaking wind has not been found to cause harm to anyone. I agree it is offensive, but not harmful like second hand smoke.

So far you have only offered your opinion on farts and secondhand smoke. The evidence for flatuence being harmful is exactly the same as secondhand smoke. Namely, zero.

All of which is irrelevant in any case. It's about property rights, not wind. Next time ask the resturant owner for a seat in the "no farting" section.