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Plan targets restaurant smoke in Dallas - Nonsmoking sections must be smoke-free
The Dallas Morning News ^
| August 7, 2002
| By VICTORIA LOE HICKS / The Dallas Morning News
Posted on 08/07/2002 3:24:43 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
I just had an idea.....how about liberal-free schools?
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posted on
08/07/2002 3:42:54 AM PDT
by
The Raven
To: MeeknMing
I'm a smoker and I actually think this makes a lot of sense. This is not like we've done in California, which is bans it completely. Have smoking sections and have the owners install air circulation and ventilation systems which prevents the stuff wafting into other areas. That way, those businesses which want to attract smokers by going out and investing money in adequate air recycling and ventilation have an opportunity to attract them, instead of banning it outright. On the other hand if we just allowed the marketplace to regulate as it should you wouldn't have this silliness in the first place. If non-smokers had a problem with cigarette smoke they would just boycott restaurants that allow it. Since, they outnumber smokers by a large number, that would result in restaurants banning it. That would be the natural result which implies that most non-smokers don't regard it as that much of a nuisance and it's the "health fascists" that have managed to get a lot of these laws passed. As for bars, 80% of those who frequent bars smoke. How's that for a tyranny of a minority.
To: Couer de Lion
This is America, let private business alone. If a restaurant wants to install special ventilation, or wall off smoking from the nons, let them freely choose to do so. The intent of the regulation, is to make it prohibitively expensive for the restaurant to comply, therefore they will ban smoking altogether. Don't feel guilty for being a smoker, we need less govt, less regulations in every part of our lives, not more.
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posted on
08/07/2002 5:39:09 AM PDT
by
jeremiah
To: jeremiah
Smoking's OK, as long as you don't exhail.
To: jeremiah; Couer de Lion
All of our restaurants; in my city even the fast food restaurants have had a smoking and non-smoking section for years
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posted on
08/07/2002 6:12:09 AM PDT
by
Kaslin
To: Kaslin
How about a wimpy-liberal-leftist with their sickly-limpwrist spawn section, and one for the rest of us?
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posted on
08/07/2002 6:23:57 AM PDT
by
Leisler
To: MeeknMing
I guess fajitas are off the menu, now?
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posted on
08/07/2002 6:51:58 AM PDT
by
lds23
To: MeeknMing
So, why don't they just outlaw tobacco outright, altogether and screw the tax revenues, screw the smokers - just screw everybody. At least that would be up front and honest instead of all this totalitarian incremental B(arbra) S(triesand). It's going to be the ultimate outcome anyhow.
But noooooooo. Legislators are SO clever. They don't want to take the heat and obviously NOBODY WILL NOTICE if they do it bit by bit. How insulting.
There. I've been wanting to say that for AGES. (Thank you for your patience.)
To: Couer de Lion; *puff_list; SheLion; Just another Joe; Max McGarrity; RikaStrom
On the other hand if we just allowed the marketplace to regulate as it should you wouldn't have this silliness in the first place. That's what so many of us have been saying for years. But that's not good enough for the antis. They believe they have the right to smoke-free everywhere on the off chance they might, possibly , someday visit a particular establishment.
If smoke-free was so good for business, more than 70% of establishments would have gone smoke-free voluntarily since at least 70% of the population are non-smokers.
Back in June when the banning of smoking in Delaware "public" places went through the legislature there was a quote in the paper from the manager of one of the local sports bars, which is also a restaurant. He said he looks forward to it and that it won't hurt his busines because his customers come to eat, drink, converse, hear the music or watch the game, not to smoke.
My question to him is then why don't you go non-smoking on your own and get a jump on the competition? He is always conveniently occupied or absent whenever I stop by to query him.
When I was there last Friday afternoon there were 24 people at the bar - 19 either were smoking or had a pack of cigarettes on the bar in front of them.
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posted on
08/07/2002 8:49:50 AM PDT
by
Gabz
To: MeeknMing
Anti-smoking groups dismissed it as too weak, and a spokesman for local restaurants expressed concern that it could give some eating establishments an unfair advantage over others.Of course the antis dismissed it as too weak. It's not an outright ban of smoking everywhere.
As for some establishments having an unfair advantage - the politicians DON'T CARE if the mom and pop places go out of business.
To: The Raven
......liberal-free schools?
To: doberville
There. I've been wanting to say that for AGES. (Thank you for your patience.)
To: MeeknMing
I guess this means that Tommy Grand will have to put out his cigarettes before he busts those cheaters.
To: lds23
I guess fajitas are off the menu, now? LOL! Well, I hope not. I luv my fajitas.......
To: Eric in the Ozarks
Smoking's OK, as long as you don't exhail. Here, Eric! EXHAUST THIS!
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posted on
08/07/2002 11:42:29 AM PDT
by
SheLion
To: MeeknMing
The police should be patrolling these businesses to make sure these non-smoking laws are adhered to. They could use little smoke detectors to inspect different areas of the business for violations. Then citations or arrests could occur on the spot. It's the law.
To: doberville
#9...... It isn't that they don't have the guts to ban tobacco completely, it is that they are more addicted to the taxes, than the smokers are to smoking.
To: MeeknMing
I see nothing wrong with this. I'm a non-smoker but I don't care of others choose to smoke ... it's not my business. But here's my problem ... too much of the smoke makes me sick ... literally. My sinuses swell up like I've got a cold, I get a headache, and sometimes I'll start sneezing. Next day, I feel downright hung over.
When I go to a restaurant to eat and I ask for a non-smoking section, that non-smoking section better darn well be smoke free. Nothing like sitting at a table that is supposedly in non-smoking while just on the other side of the lattice-work "wall" there's a table of 4 and all of 'em are smoking.
The separate sections need to be more separate.
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posted on
08/07/2002 1:28:32 PM PDT
by
al_c
To: al_c
I am a non-smoker also, and I would never tell a smoker he could not smoke. However at the same time I do not appreciate smokers tell me I have to tolerate having to breathe their smoke. And yes to much smoke can make you sick. Especially if you have a cold. It's very hard to breathe then. As far as I know the smoking sections in our restaurants here in my town are very well separated from the non smoking sections
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posted on
08/07/2002 2:00:50 PM PDT
by
Kaslin
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