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1 posted on 07/10/2002 8:35:32 AM PDT by RCW2001
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Here in NYC you can finance a pack of Marlboros. They're about $ 7 - 7.50/pack.
2 posted on 07/10/2002 8:39:05 AM PDT by Ed_NYC
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To: RCW2001
Our forefathers wrote that the power to tax was the power to destroy. They weren't kidding. This is sickening.
3 posted on 07/10/2002 9:00:50 AM PDT by jim35
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And the states just continue to jump on the bandwagon that will eventually grind to a halt, one way or another.
6 posted on 07/10/2002 9:15:09 AM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: RCW2001
Seven Democrats joined 13 Republicans to pass the tax.

13 Republicans. Doncha just love it!

15 posted on 07/10/2002 10:24:45 AM PDT by SheLion
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"The tax increase is a linchpin in a budget plan to avert cuts to schools, health programs, aid to cities and arts grants"

If anyone believes that, they're smoking the wrong stuff.

33 posted on 07/10/2002 11:29:13 AM PDT by Eastbound
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Hey! Look at this:

Senate rejects tax increase on cigarettes (Michigan)

Posted on 05/31/2002 12:51 PM Eastern by Dan from Michigan

Senate rejects tax increase on cigarettes

Lawmakers must find other ways to balance budget

By Mark Hornbeck / Detroit News Lansing Bureau

LANSING -- The state Senate overwhelmingly rejected a proposal to raise the cigarette tax Thursday, hours after Gov. John Engler threw his clout behind it.

The 29-8 vote against a 25-cents per pack tobacco tax increase means Engler and lawmakers will have to scramble next week to find other ways to balance the state budget.

"There are no good choices. We've come to the end of our rope. Get ready for the budget cuts that are bound to come," said Senate Finance Committee Chair Joanne Emmons, R-Big Rapids, who voted in favor of the cigarette tax boost.

Thursday morning, Engler blessed an increase in the state excise tax on cigarettes in an effort to raise more than $150 million annually toward erasing a deficit of $300 million-plus in each of the next two years.

"A cigarette tax is good for the health of Michigan and the health of the budget," Engler said. "I think people would overwhelmingly support this over other options."

But the majority of senators didn't see it that way. "The right approach to this budget problem is cutting spending," said Sen. Valde Garcia, R-St. Johns.

Democrats voted "no," saying it's a levy on those least able to afford it. Many preferred delaying rollbacks in the state income and business taxes, which would pump more than $200 million into the budget.

The state last raised the cigarette tax -- by 50 cents a pack -- in 1994, to help pay for public schools as part of the Proposal A finance shift. In 1988, the tax was 25 cents; in 1960 it was just 6 cents.

The prospect of another increase irritated David Damman, 40, a laser operator from Sterling Heights. "A luxury tax is one thing, but this is ridiculous," said Damman, who smokes two packs of Marlboros a day. "Cigarettes already cost too much, especially when taxes are 70 percent of the cost."

Actually, a pack of cigarettes costs $3.50-$4.50, and taxes account for a little more than one-third of that amount.

States sinking in red ink are increasingly turning to the cigarette tax to bail them out, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Tobacco lobbyists who have been fighting the trend across the country say it's unfair to single out smokers to bolster dwindling budgets. And local store owners say additional taxes hurt their sales.

But public health advocates say a cigarette tax hike would save lives.

"Anytime you raise the price of tobacco, you get a decline in smoking, particularly among youth," said Jim Moore, program director for the American Lung Association of Michigan.

Senate rejects tax increase on cigarettes (Michigan)

This was in May. So what the heck happened??!!!!

34 posted on 07/10/2002 11:29:55 AM PDT by SheLion
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People of Michigan: buy from real americans, the indians. Buy cigarettes from indian reservations over the internet, and pay less than you are paying now. The cigarettes come to you in a few days, and they are fresh. I tried it and I am very satisfied. There are many indidan reservations that sell tax free cigarettes. Any body from Michigan that pays this new tax instead of buying from the indians is crazy.
36 posted on 07/10/2002 12:43:17 PM PDT by waterstraat
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$4.60 is a bargain. Here in Chicago our RINO Gov. just rasied cig taxes and had the gall to cite 9-11 as the reason. Cost per pack now: $6.00.
41 posted on 07/10/2002 4:15:10 PM PDT by Musket
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Really is kind of suprising that we don't, say, legalize heroin, and do the same thing -- make the damn 'junkies' pay for everything.

Heck lets just slap on a 20% sales tax on people with felony records - Im sure they got visas too.

42 posted on 07/10/2002 5:09:27 PM PDT by mindprism.com
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Pathetic. At least my senator voted right.(Garcia)
44 posted on 07/10/2002 8:41:22 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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Engler proposed a 50-cent increase -- 20 cents higher than lawmakers had discussed. Engler, backed by major education groups, proposed earmarking the additional 20 cents for schools to preserve a minimum $6,700 per pupil state allowance in 2004.

This RINO tried to buy the teacher's vote for Dubya by purchasing laptops for all Michigan teachers. At the same time, he squashed the referendum for school vouchers.

Glad I got my butt out of that state.

45 posted on 07/10/2002 8:52:12 PM PDT by Willie Green
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Wow, Republicans voting to raise taxes.

There's a shocker........

L

48 posted on 07/10/2002 9:10:25 PM PDT by Lurker
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