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Judiciary Committee Considering Visa Bonding
Human Events, Vol. 58, No. 12 | week of March 25, 2002 | Keri-Ann Calderwood

Posted on 03/24/2002 6:22:33 AM PST by RFP


   The immigration reform bill under consideration by the House Judiciary
Committee may include a proposal to require people entering the United
States on temporaty visas to post a bond to guarantee that they leave when
their visas expire.
   George Fishman, chief counsel of the House-Immigration
Subcommittee, recently attended the largest bail agent conference in the
United States to discuss the possibility of a "Visa Bond." Supporters
of the proposal say it is a simple way to enhance national security
through the visa process.
   The bond would work just like bail bonds posted in criminal cases. A
foreign student or other temporary visa holder would pay a percentage of the
bond up front and the bail agent would guarantee the remainder. The bail
agent would then be financially responsible for ensuring that the visa holder
complies with the conditions of his visa. If the visitor is a student, the
bail agent would verify that the student is registered and attending
classes. If the visa holder fails to meet the conditions of the visa, the
bail agent will turn him over to the Immigration and Naturalization 
Service (INS) for deportation.
   "There are two benefits of a visa bond," said Steven Camarota of the
Center for Immigration Studies (CIS). "First, a bond provides a monetary
incentive for the visitor to leave when his visa has expired, and second,
a visa bond privatizes the entry-exit process."
   Presently, there is no system to monitor when or whether temporary
visa holders leave the country when their visas expire. "Enforcing
an entry-exit system is key, because terrorists have gained entrance to
the United States with student visas and we know that tens of thousands
of people overstay their visa each year," said Camarota. "We can't
do things the way we have done in the past. Wheter or not it made sense
in the past, it does not make sense to issue temporary visas without an
entry-exit system now."
   Camarota says that foreign students should have no problem paying the
bond. "Universities have been claiming for years that foreign students
are essential because they pay their own way," he said. "If these
rich, elite kids can afford to pay full tuition and expenses to come
to American universities, than they can afford to pay a bond."

Miss Calderwood, a senior at Brigham Young University, is an intern with the National Journalism Center.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: bailbonds; immigrantlist; immigration; students; visas
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1 posted on 03/24/2002 6:22:33 AM PST by RFP
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To: RFP
This is an idea that will go nowhere.
2 posted on 03/24/2002 6:24:45 AM PST by Glenn
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the bail agent will turn him over to the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) for deportation

"...Bad Boys, Bad Boys. Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? Bad Boys, Bad Boys, ... "

3 posted on 03/24/2002 6:25:41 AM PST by RFP
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To: Glenn
I dissagree Glenn. It's called "THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX." It will grow legs, IMHO.
4 posted on 03/24/2002 6:27:43 AM PST by RFP
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To: RFP
"THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX."

The box, in this case, lives in the State Department. The diplomats will nip this one in the bud lest someone get offended.

5 posted on 03/24/2002 6:32:35 AM PST by Glenn
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To: RFP; Victoria Delsoul; Pelham; Travis McGee; Joe Hadenuf; sarcasm; harpseal; RonDog; MeeknMing...
The bond would work just like bail bonds posted in criminal cases. A foreign student or other temporary visa holder would pay a percentage of the bond up front and the bail agent would guarantee the remainder. The bail agent would then be financially responsible for ensuring that the visa holder complies with the conditions of his visa. If the visitor is a student, the bail agent would verify that the student is registered and attending classes. If the visa holder fails to meet the conditions of the visa, the bail agent will turn him over to the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) for deportation.

"There are two benefits of a visa bond," said Steven Camarota of the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS). "First, a bond provides a monetary incentive for the visitor to leave when his visa has expired, and second, a visa bond privatizes the entry-exit process."

Outstanding!

This would be a small but necessary step in winning not only the War on Terror, but also the War on Illegal Immigration.




7 posted on 03/24/2002 6:59:11 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: RFP
These people are soooo stupid! Those requesting visas are the least of our problem. There are millions of illegal alien workers/terrorists moving across our border, almost at their will. We won't do what is necessary to control our own home. Fee for a visa is great; if a foreigner can afford it, he'll pay and likely get his visa. If a foreigner CAN'T afford the fee, why, he'll just become another illegal alien. DUH!!

An illegal have trouble getting by in the US? Why, no. All sorts oof state and local agencies don't want to hurt his feelings and will give great medical attention, especially in the maternity ward, give him reduced tuition at public colleges, allow him to get back on the streets with no license or mandatory insurance and so on. And, if proof of elegibility is required, those documents are available at very reasonable cost at a location near you. No? Today is Sunday. Try a local flea market in an area with a large Mexican population. It should be safe especially if there are lots of kids about. Shop for whatever, but watch for a booth with IDs for sale. You'll find it. Some signs will even be in English. If you need another SSA card, you probably can pick up a good looking version.

Fee for visas, my butt. Why will that do to solve the much greater problem.

8 posted on 03/24/2002 7:04:47 AM PST by Tacis
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To: Sabertooth
The bond would work just like bail bonds posted in criminal cases. A foreign student or other temporary visa holder would pay a percentage of the bond up front and the bail agent would guarantee the remainder.

I think this is an outstanding idea--providing the bail bond and the perecentage paid by the visa holder is high enough to represent a substantial monetary loss. 10% of $2,000 wouldn't mean squat.

9 posted on 03/24/2002 7:25:58 AM PST by scholar
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To: RFP
I propose a sliding scale. Anyone from a Muslim country: $10,000,000. Anybody from France: $1,000,000,000. Anybody from Mexico: the entire GNP of Mexico. Anybody from Australia: $50 (I like aussie accents).

--Boris

10 posted on 03/24/2002 7:28:52 AM PST by boris
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To: Tacis
Those requesting visas are the least of our problem. There are millions of illegal alien workers/terrorists moving across our border, almost at their will. We won't do what is necessary to control our own home.

I can't argue much, but Fee for Visa is at least a start... a small measure of control over who comes into our country, and whether they should stay.

It also raises funds that could help offset the cost of enforcing our borders.




11 posted on 03/24/2002 7:30:10 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: RFP
Certainly would cripple tourism.
12 posted on 03/24/2002 7:32:36 AM PST by AzJP
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To: RFP
I dont know. Save up for the bond, come in legally, overstay the visa, become illegal, forfeit the bond, apply for welfare benefits, recoup the whole amount in about five months. Live on the dole and petition for relatives to legally come in after being adjusted. Sounds pretty lame to me.
13 posted on 03/24/2002 8:12:03 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: Sabertooth
The immigration reform bill under consideration by the House Judiciary Committee may include a proposal to require people entering the United States on temporaty visas to post a bond to guarantee that they leave when their visas expire.

I don't mean to be negative but....

This will never work if the government gets involved. Name me one government program that works.

Besides, this administration would probably end up giving the people the money for the bond, and then they would skip and we would end up eating the loss.

I rate this a 2 1/2.

14 posted on 03/24/2002 8:21:41 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: AzJP
Question...what percentage of genuine tourism is foreign as compared to domestic in the USA?
15 posted on 03/24/2002 8:23:47 AM PST by xp38
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To: Tacis
I have to agree with you, Tacis. This 'visa bonding' is just more window dressing to obscure the public's view of the larger problem of open and unprotected borders.

It might have some effect on those visitors that are basically honest, but do terrorists really care that they forfeit their visa bonds, if they crash a plane into a skyscraper?

16 posted on 03/24/2002 8:42:51 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: xp38
This is a serious question, not meant to make a point on either side. Most people on this site oppose any kind of national ID card. Most people on this site want to identify and deport aliens who are in the country illegally.

What power should what kinds of law enforcement have to ask for documents in order to identify illegal aliens? No system is perfect, but passports at the border work pretty well. A few come in on illegal documents, but not many. But we obviously have the power to ask for documents at the border. Generally we can't inside the US.

And, of course, actual citizens don't usually have documents attesting to that fact. So, any ideas??

17 posted on 03/24/2002 9:04:02 AM PST by BohDaThone
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To: boris
not to mention aussie women. could we do a $50 bond for the aussie males and a $5 buck bond for the aussie females?

BTW, the frogs' bond is not high enough. think higher. think scientific notation.
18 posted on 03/24/2002 9:16:24 AM PST by bigcheese
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To: bigcheese
not to mention aussie women. could we do a $50 bond for the aussie males and a $5 buck bond for the aussie females?

Yeah, I like the 'Ladies Night' pricing idea. I'd put up the bond for that Australian ski jumper.

Bonding is probably a good idea, at least it is a start. But think of all the loopholes the Democrats will attach. First it will be waived for political asylum(no problem there), then for those with AIDS, then for the 'socially persecuted'(those in transition between he/she/it), etc...

20 posted on 03/24/2002 10:16:08 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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