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Immigration bill's failure disappoints president
El Paso Times ^ | March 22, 2002 | Sergio Bustos

Posted on 03/23/2002 12:25:55 AM PST by sarcasm

WASHINGTON -- In the weeks leading up to President Bush's trip to Latin America, including a stopover in Mexico, the White House was aggressively pushing Congress to approve a bill allowing undocumented immigrants to stay in the United States while applying for green cards.

The bill passed the House but never made it to the Senate floor for a vote.

The failure to get the bill signed into law in time for the trip abroad was a disappointment for Bush, who wanted to show Mexican President Vicente Fox that his administration was serious about helping the estimated 3 million to 4 million undocumented Mexican immigrants who live in the United States.

Bush, speaking to reporters the day before his Latin American trip, insisted that congressional approval of the measure is a friendly gesture to its southern neighbor.

"I want to show our friends, the Mexicans, that we are compassionate about people who live here on a legal basis, that we don't disrupt the families for people who are here legally," he said.

Passage of the bill would, in fact, allow certain undocumented immigrants to file residency applications without having to leave the country. Current law, covered by Section 245(i) of the U.S. immigration statute, requires such immigrants to return home for as long as 10 years.

To qualify, immigrants would need a family member or employer as a sponsor and need to prove the relationship existed before Aug. 15, 2001. They also would have to pay a $1,000 fine and prove that they were in the country on or before Dec. 21, 2000.

The Mexican government claims between 300,000 and 500,000 Mexicans could be eligible under 245(i).

But immigration experts said passage of 245(i) is a minor issue between the United States and Mexico, affecting a small number of immigrants.

"I think some people in the White House had hoped that this 245(i) bamboozle might fool Mexicans into thinking it was an extraordinary gesture, but the Mexicans understand this one is a minute gesture," said Demetrios Papademetriou, co-director of the Washington-based Migration Policy Institute. A change in 245(i) change "is to pretend as if we were doing something."

If the debate over 245(i) is any indication, that kind of legislation would be doomed.

Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle said objections to the 245(i) provision by Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va, and some Republicans made it difficult to bring the measure to a vote before the Senate left town.

Byrd is chairman of the powerful Appropriations Committee, which has a major say in how much the administration can spend each year.

In an angry speech on the Senate floor this week, Byrd said he opposed the measure because he thought it would encourage more illegal immigration and would reopen "another crack in the system through which a potential terrorist can crawl."

"Section 245(i) acts as an incentive, a lure, for illegal immigration by suggesting that it is quicker and more convenient to enter the country illegally than to wait outside the United States to complete the visa application process," he said.


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1 posted on 03/23/2002 12:25:55 AM PST by sarcasm
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To: WRhine;Sabertooth
The truth about the amnesty is starting to leak out.
2 posted on 03/23/2002 12:28:59 AM PST by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm
Yesterday, I spoke with a small group of law enforcement officers in Tennessee. They have stopped U-Haul trucks full of illegals - 30 of them piled in the back. They called the INS and were told "Let them go. That's not enough for us to worry about. We're too busy."

In one case a state trooper mentioned, there were hundreds of illegals together at a park beside a lake. The troopers were told by INS, "Let them go."

They arrest illegals all the time for various crimes. The first time a guy is arrested, his name is "Juan." He has false ID. "Juan" posts bond and never appears in court. The next time they arrest the same guy, his ID says he "Manuel." Law enforcement officers have no idea who the people they arrest really are! Illegal aliens SHARE the same ID card info with many of their own by simply using different photos on the cards.

We, who are citizens with proof of our identity, are going to be held accountable for our law-breaking. They know exactly who we are. Illegal aliens simply get away with all kinds of things because INS won't deport them and there is such massive identity fraud among them.

These law enforcement officers made it clear. Citizens have fewer rights and lattitude than illegal aliens.

Americans are now second-class citizens in our own country!"

3 posted on 03/23/2002 2:30:53 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: sarcasm
"I want to show our friends, the Mexicans, that we are compassionate about people who live here on a legal basis

What concievable business is this of Mexico's?

4 posted on 03/23/2002 2:53:01 AM PST by Dan De Quille
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To: Dan De Quille
It has even disappointed me. I don't know how you could possibly get this many house members to vote for a bill that destroys the concept of law and order. This is all done in the name of "compassionate conservatism" which is fast becoming the term of socialist politicians.
5 posted on 03/23/2002 3:39:02 AM PST by meenie
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To: sarcasm
The immigration bill exposed Bush for the globalist he is. George Readmylips Jr.
6 posted on 03/23/2002 3:41:55 AM PST by Osinski
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To: sarcasm
University study in Arizona says half the illegals in Arizona are illegal because INS hasn't processed the paper to make 'em naturalized US Citizens. Nothing adverse about the paper, just slow feds. INS says be patient: then nothing happens.
Maybe if the paper isn't processed in time, the INS folks should be deported to the country of origin of the qualified applicant?
7 posted on 03/23/2002 3:44:08 AM PST by AzJP
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To: sarcasm
In an angry speech on the Senate floor this week, Byrd said he opposed the measure because he thought it would encourage more illegal immigration and would reopen "another crack in the system through which a potential terrorist can crawl."

Why have I suddenly fallen in love with Senator Byrd? He isn't afraid to say the things our dear Republicans are terrified to say. I may move over to West Virginia and vote for him next time.

8 posted on 03/23/2002 3:51:59 AM PST by swampfox98
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To: meenie
I don't know how you could possibly get this many house members to vote for a bill that destroys the concept of law and order

I know what you mean. And all this after the impeachment of Clinton on the basis that he violated the "rule of law". You have to wonder what that phrase means to Republicans (we know what it means to the Dems). Was the impeachment pure politics? Are principles just a farce for the Republican caucus? Is the "rule of law" simply an ad hoc bludgeon to use opportunistically? I don't like what I'm thinking.

9 posted on 03/23/2002 3:53:08 AM PST by Dan De Quille
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To: Dan De Quille
"I know what you mean. And all this after the impeachment of Clinton on the basis that he violated the "rule of law". You have to wonder what that phrase means to Republicans (we know what it means to the Dems). Was the impeachment pure politics? Are principles just a farce for the Republican caucus? Is the "rule of law" simply an ad hoc bludgeon to use opportunistically? I don't like what I'm thinking."

The answer to all your question would appear to be "yes".
10 posted on 03/23/2002 6:00:26 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: AzJP
Look at the police blotters in Arizona and read the names - illegal or not, third world attitudes from Mexico are costing Americans!
11 posted on 03/23/2002 6:11:19 AM PST by ThinkLikeWaterAndReeds
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To: sarcasm; CheneyChick; vikingchick; Victoria Delsoul; WIMom; one_particular_harbour; kmiller1k...
"I think some people in the White House had hoped that this 245(i) bamboozle might fool Mexicans into thinking it was an extraordinary gesture, but the Mexicans understand this one is a minute gesture," said Demetrios Papademetriou, co-director of the Washington-based Migration Policy Institute. A change in 245(i) change "is to pretend as if we were doing something."

So much for the President's down-payment on pandering to Latinos.

"We need more Amnesties."




13 posted on 03/23/2002 6:41:34 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Actually he probably picked up some votes, the Democrats look like they killed the bill. I didn't like the idea- but its defeat seems likely to help Bush. weird.
14 posted on 03/23/2002 6:58:24 AM PST by GeronL
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To: sarcasm
The failure to get the bill signed into law in time for the trip abroad was a disappointment for Bush, who wanted to show Mexican President Vicente Fox that his administration was serious about helping the estimated 3 million to 4 million undocumented Mexican immigrants who live in the United States.


15 posted on 03/23/2002 7:04:16 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: sarcasm
"another crack in the system through which a potential terrorist can crawl."

Don't forget - that's a DemocRAT speaking.
They allowed the slime to "crawl" around in the White House during the '90's and rubber-stamped his initiatives -
and we ended up with 9/11.
Let's not forget that during all this hot-aired bluster.

16 posted on 03/23/2002 7:04:20 AM PST by ppaul
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To: Sabertooth
Immigration bill's failure disappoints president

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I don't think this Frankenstein has been killed yet. But the peasants with torches and pitchforks are chasing it down.

17 posted on 03/23/2002 7:06:54 AM PST by dennisw
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To: GeronL
Who cares what bills they pass....the INS lets anyone in anyhow. Laws won't change that
18 posted on 03/23/2002 7:08:42 AM PST by estrogen
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To: sarcasm
Has anyone considered the possibility that Bush knew the Senate would shoot this down, and supported it solely to take Hispanic votes from Dems?
19 posted on 03/23/2002 7:10:07 AM PST by copycat
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To: copycat
Has anyone considered the possibility that Bush knew the Senate would shoot this down, and supported it solely to take Hispanic votes from Dems?

More than a few have floated this theory, and I have posed this (yet unanswered) question to them:

If the Latinos flock to the GOP because the Dems blocked an Amnesty extension...

What will the RINOs have to promise them to stay?




20 posted on 03/23/2002 7:15:48 AM PST by Sabertooth
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