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‘It Isn’t Over Yet’:SDPD Chief Bejarano talks about latest developments in van Dam Case
Newsweek-Website ^ | March 1, 2002 | NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE

Posted on 03/01/2002 7:36:24 AM PST by FresnoDA

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]


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To: SlickWillard
Slick, really, I don't see the connection between the child's poor fashion choices and the parents grooming her to be in the porn industry.

You know, maybe chokers are something the little girls wore in her class, girls are like that. They'll imitate the cutest girl and many will wear chokers or other fashion accessories to bond with each other.

I applaud emotion, but...I am failing to see the connection here.

401 posted on 03/01/2002 12:43:57 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: FresnoDA
Ted Bundy was a personal friend of the Republican governor of the state he was living in when first arrested. The "Texas Tower Sniper" Charles Whitman was a Eagle Scout.People STILL claim Michael Jackson is a hetrosexual.

Besides,how many people do you know who will say,"Yeah,I've been friends with that phychotic baby-murdering SOB for 20 years now. Nice guy!"?

402 posted on 03/01/2002 12:47:55 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
Neglect is NOT the same thing as murder.

No, but "contributory negligence" leaves them a portion of the blame, just as if you leave your 6 month old in the tub with your four year old for an hour, YOU are not guilty of drowning the 6 month old, but you DO catch some of the blame, and rightfully so. That's what "adults" are for: to be responsible for their children and protect them.

Pretty hard to do locked in the garage with strangers coming in and out, and not checking on your kids for 11 hours.

There are even people here saying they thing the father was selling the daughter to strangers,as well as being guilty of her murder.

Not me, don't include me with that crowd.

403 posted on 03/01/2002 12:49:48 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
SignOnSanDiego Forums > News > The Search for Danielle

My brother-in-law is a CPA here in San Diego and attended a luncheon yesterday with the District Attorney who apparently spoke a little about the Van Dam case. I am told it was mentioned that Brenda and Damon have an agent and have already signed deals for a book and a movie. Is it just me, or does this seem unbelievable to anyone else that they could have already made these arrangements before their murdered daughter is even buried???


This was just found this post on the Union Trib forum.  There are some wild comments flying, but this on was very interesting, with regards to the van Dam's demeanor, publicly and privately.

FDA

404 posted on 03/01/2002 12:50:02 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: Travis McGee
"No comparison to the Klaas case."

None?

The Klaas case --

    -bold nightime abduction (3 girls in bedroom)
    -one parent in house at the time
    -child last checked at 10pm
    -parent then retired
    -discovered missing the following morning
    -entry not locked, security inadequate
    -no screams or suspicious sounds heard/reported (victim and 2 others kept quiet with threats, then restrained/gagged)
    -crime was planned in advance, not done on impulse
The VD case --
    -bold nightime abduction (crept through house to bedroom)
    -one parent in house at the time
    -child last checked at 10 pm
    -parent then retired
    -discovered missing the following morning
    -entry not locked, security inadequate
    -no screams or suspicious sounds heard/reported (presumably Danielle was told and/or made to keep quiet, although this is not yet clear)
    -crime had to have been planned, since a cool customer like Westerfield, who is an engineer/inventor, would have been reluctant to stagger through a dark house looking through all the bedrooms for the right one and doing so with no plan for keeping the kid quiet and getting her out quickly.

405 posted on 03/01/2002 12:50:10 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Naked Lunch
Personal attacks are sneakpete's speciality.
406 posted on 03/01/2002 12:50:22 PM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: SlickWillard
That reply was facetious, which you would know if you had bothered to read the entire thread.

I did read the whole thread,but I apologize if I misunderstood you.

407 posted on 03/01/2002 12:50:49 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
Some food for thought--I posted this on another thread:

There are risks regardless of what we do. Staying at home under the bed does not keep one safe from the ceiling falling in unexpectedly. However, some risks are just plain reckless. Here in Oklahoma, there is a saying: if you lie down with dogs, you get fleas. Essentially, if you hang out with lowlifes, you get lowlife kinds of problems. Do lowlifes sometimes masquerade as pious churchgoers? Of course. But your chances of finding a lowlife are really much higher if you go go places where lowlifes go. Bringing said lowlifes home is, to me at least, an uncceptable risk. It goes far beyond bringing a churchmember home for dinner--the expectation there is that this is a decent Christian person. The expectation with a barfly is considerably lower.

408 posted on 03/01/2002 12:51:26 PM PST by MizSterious
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To: FresnoDA
If they plea bargain this case there damn well should be riots in SD! You have the body, you have the blood, you have the man responsible... there is little doubt provided the police have the evidence they claim that this case will be open and shut in front of a jury... since it is SD and not LA...

If they had no body, I can understand a plea, no body always leaves reasonable doubt... this case sadly has one. I don't see what leverage either party would have to agree to a plea...

409 posted on 03/01/2002 12:51:58 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Bonaparte
BUMP!!!
410 posted on 03/01/2002 12:52:55 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: Fury
This murder is a terrible tragedy. Unfortunately, it has all the lurid details that the media thrives on. Call me callous, but I think there are more important issues facing America right now than what type of lifestyle her parents subscribed too, or....what type of neckwear the victim favored.
411 posted on 03/01/2002 12:54:02 PM PST by GSWarrior
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To: Churchillspirit
Personal attacks are sneakpete's speciality.

Just don't mention his war record!!  My oh my!!  FDA  LOL!

412 posted on 03/01/2002 12:54:11 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: SlickWillard
I should also state for the record that the pictures I have seen of Danielle do look to me as though she was being groomed for a career in the porn industry.

She just looks like a normal little girl posing for a school photo in the only one(s) of her that I have seen. I freely admit that I haven't really searched-out or paid much attention to the photos,though.

413 posted on 03/01/2002 12:55:22 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
I am just GUESSING,but I suspect that since there were other INVITED guests inside the house,they may have thought somebody innocent opened the door. Even if the rumors about the party in the garage are true,I think it is safe to assume that people were leaving the garage at various times to get a drink,use the toilet,or even step outside for a breath of fresh air. This is NOT a high-crime neighborhood they live in,and they didn't worry about it.

BINGO!!!!! I agree 100%.

But the "low crime area" part doesn't matter if you are bringing home new strangers you meet off the internet swingers' clubs every weekend. You may not agree, but I think there is risk bringing new different folks who like to screw strangers into your home every week. Let's face it, swingers who screw strangers an hour after meeting them are not "stable low risk moderate folks". They are volotile high risk personalities by definition.

414 posted on 03/01/2002 12:55:38 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: BigBobber
I have no reason to believe the police are framing anyone. But if the van Dams did it thy might know enough about their neighbor to know he would be a great patsy. I don't believe this happened either -- for the reasons already cited.
415 posted on 03/01/2002 12:56:51 PM PST by js1138
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To: sneakypete
Basically, you have just admitted you are a contrarian for contrarians sake.

Since you are not a swinger, yet you are defending the rights of swingers to swing in their homes with children. Yet, you say you are for freedom. I guess you missed the part that doing so can and does endanger your own children. I guess you are not really reading this particular case very well.

For you to say it's fine that they didn't check on their children for 11 hours, and that it's fine to bring strangers into the house (and not check on one's kids) shows you have a lack of any child rearing sense.

May I inquire if you have any children of your own? And if you had small children would you not be concerned about their safety if the door alarm had gone off twice, and, especially with a small blonde girl child, you wouldn't have made sure she was okay?

And if you reply that yes you would have made sure, you have blown your argument to bits. Because it shows that any normal parent would have made sure the kids were okay. And most, thank goodness, don't swing.

Anyways, you are just arguing for arguments sake alone. You don't even believe in what you are arguing. You have already admitted to not being a swinger, so you are just someone who feels the need to argue. You have no interest in this issue, except to further your argumentativeness.

416 posted on 03/01/2002 12:56:51 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: HamiltonJay
If they plea bargain this case there damn well should be riots in SD! You have the body, you have the blood, you have the man responsible... there is little doubt provided the police have the evidence they claim that this case will be open and shut in front of a jury... since it is SD and not LA...

If they had no body, I can understand a plea, no body always leaves reasonable doubt... this case sadly has one. I don't see what leverage either party would have to agree to a plea...

OK, this will send stinkypete into orbit, but here goes!!!

They will NOT plea, unless there is other substantial evidence that DW is in fact either:

1.    An Accomplice

2.    Being Framed

3.    In protective custody from the real PERPS!!

tin-foil hat/ON

417 posted on 03/01/2002 12:57:26 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: Naked Lunch
Did you mean to answer my thoughts on the case with a mean attack on me personally?

POOR BABY! You come on here to imply the mother may be guilty in the murder of her daughter,and then get upset because somebody points out that logic ain't your strong point?

418 posted on 03/01/2002 12:57:54 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: Travis McGee
Unless she has the most amazing on-off switch for her grief.

Like X42 at Ron Brown's funeral?

419 posted on 03/01/2002 12:59:01 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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