In search of extra dimensions: Hang on -- a new reality may be around the corner

spaceref.com ^ | 19 Feb 02 | Press Release

[strela]

Its turtles - all the way down.

[henbane]

Could all our synapses be connected so that in fact we are one?

In one sense, all our synapses are already connected in that they--and we--must follow all the known rules of mass/energy so far discoved.

If you mean could we--our "mind"--be connected in a larger extra-dimensional construct--for example, that "unexplainable hierarchy of scale" mentioned in the article--this "mind" connection making us "one" is entirely feasible given these latest details of our extra-dimensional quest.

Like a child watching the bubbles in the soda bottle seemingly emerging from nowhere, the scientist sees our universe emerge from "nowhere" into being. The discovery of extra dimensions may create a new concept of that "nowhere"--and reveal the source, not only of the universe, but also some inner secrets of the human mind--and the stunning majesty of the Divine Force behind it all.

[RightWhale]

I'm glad you posted earlier and posted again on this. Maybe it's just that I am at a stage in my thought process where your words resonate strongly, but you are expressing a powerful idea very clearly. I had no idea the article would lead to this. A most remarkable connection.

[Darkshadow]

But for every A there must by an anti-A

[Rain-maker]

[TC Rider]

Lectroids - Red Lectroids ...

Pssst, I know.

But, there were leptons in the article, but no lectroids.

[Savage Beast]

That is very nice of you. I don't know what a ping list is, though people do talk about them. What is one?

[Savage Beast]

Post # 99: I often feel like that. It is important to struggle, to try, to work to understand, to be as godly or Christ-like as we can manage to be, but, in the end, I think our ability to comprehend the universe and to know the Mind of God is about as limited as a fly's, with its compound eyes. I don't know about anyone else, but I am left with two things: (1) faith that Jesus Christ will answer my prayer, as I do believe He will, and lead me to God and help me to be as worthy as I can be and (2) the wine of life, the beauty of life, the music of life--hence my screen name.

I don't understand the Sufi mysticism of The Rubiyat, but I don't think it is pessimistic, as it appears at first glance, e.g.:

Heaven--the vision of fulfilled desire,

And hell--the shadow of a soul on fire

I think he was saying that he cannot know and will therefore drink the beauty of life.

Or, be wine a metaphor for God's grace and therein lie a deeply spiritual devotion, as many seem to say? (And as music can serve such a metaphor as well as wine can, and it is the grace of God that elevates a man from a savage beast--the screen name again.)

What do you think, Stoch?

I wonder what Sufi scholars think.

Hey, Everybody. I didn't mean all those bad things I said about Islam. I take it all back. What does The Rubiyat mean?

[Savage Beast]

Yes, I agree, Hen. Post # 1O2 is good and well said. --SB

[Doctor Stochastic]

I'm not sure the Rubiyat really means too much. It's poetry. The version we have is Omar's with an overlay of FitzGerald. Much of the Sufi stuff is just pointing out the foibles of the various Sects that existed during Omar's time. I always thought that Omar wrote from the point of view of a spectator. He also developed the best calendar ever (31 leap years in 128 years, so accurate that the orital values will change before other corrections are needed, not adopted by the government at the time, it was used by Gregory's people later) and solved the cubic equation.

[Savage Beast]

Of course the FitzGerald translation is gorgeous and classic.

Some consider The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam to be a deeply spiritual study in the same tradition as Rumi.

The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam Explained by Paramhansa Yogananda (author of Autobiography of a Yogi) is an interesting book along these lines. From the Editor's Preface:

Westerners believe, and have in fact been told so again and again, that 'The Rubaiyat' is a love poem, one written in celebration of earthly joys. Such is not the case...

Throughout the East, Omar Khayyam is recognized as a mystic, and his poem accepted as a deep spiritual allegory--too deep for ordinary comprehension.

No doubt, like everything else, it can be understood on more than one level.

One thing's certain. The FitzGerald translation is some of the most beautiful poetry I have ever heard.

[RightWhale]

10:12 everywhere, is it?

[Doctor Stochastic]

Firdausi is good too. He's a little to royalist for the current regime in Iran though. Omar is very subversive to the regime but I don't think they know it yet.

[Rain-maker]

Time is an illusion of an organic linear brain anyway....LOL.

Don't forget Schroder's cat is both alive and dead.

[keri]

You have mail.

"For us believing physicists, the distinction between the past, the present, and the future is only an illusion." Albert Einstein.

[Savage Beast]

I didn't know Einstein said that. If it is true, then one might assume that oneness with God and separation from God occur simultaneously and that we are all at one with God now and forever--at least as long as it is His will. One might also say that we have all achieved Enlightenment and are going through some exercise in working our way to it.

When James Lipton asks me, “If Heaven exists, what would you like to hear God say when you arrive?” my answer's going to be, “Come on in! Everybody's here!”

[GregoryFul]

Gravity, Spiropulu said, may soon be unified in an "unexplainable hierarchy of scale."

Perhaps "scale" is a "dimension".