First of all FtD you have changed the topic..it was your contention that Calvinism caused people to give up their faith and become apostate.When I pointed out that is the work of Satan you said OH well it happened to Arminian 's too. And well it did..we have no dispute that Satan will seek to destroy that which is of God.
The reason he is Satan is because he has no fear of God. Unfortunately neither does most of the " professing" church. Calvinists do know that .When man sits on the throne,and thinks he is in control he makes God the tooth fairy, just hanging out to pass out the goodies.
That is a heresy that pervades the "easy grace" and "name it claim it churches"...that is not a Calvinist problem!
No, it was my contention that that it was the Calvinists who wanted to point to the Arminian churches and use Arminian doctrine as the cause of their failure.
When I pointed out that is the work of Satan you said OH well it happened to Arminian 's too. And well it did..we have no dispute that Satan will seek to destroy that which is of God.
Tell that to your Calvinistic brethren, who make Calvinism a test of being a Christian-like Doc for example!
The reason he is Satan is because he has no fear of God. Unfortunately neither does most of the " professing" church. Calvinists do know that .When man sits on the throne,and thinks he is in control he makes God the tooth fairy, just hanging out to pass out the goodies.
Well, I will be posting Armininus views on depravity and you will see that he nor Wesley ever put 'man on the throne'. What they reject (as do I) is making God arbitrary when it is clearly stated in Scripture that God wants man to be saved not condemned. Only the most gut wrenching of Scripture could deny that fact (2Pet.3:16)
That is a heresy that pervades the "easy grace" and "name it claim it churches"...that is not a Calvinist problem!
Easy! well now! isn't that exactly the word that Woody used in his article? Did not he say 'how easy salvation was? Ofcourse, that is what he actually wrote not what he really meant, but then again he wanted to sound spiritual and you can't sound spiritual when you are cosigning most of the world to hell because...God feels like it! (but oh....he saved ME) Isn't GRACE WONDERFUL, that God would let most of the billions of people go to the lake of Fire but at least he saved ME.ME,ME, talk about man being on a throne!
Read Jonah and see what God feels about His creation. Jonah was a good Calvinist, waiting for the people to be destroyed(you get them God, you show them who is Sovereign!) And all the people had to do was REPENT, now how about that!