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Lord of the Rings Discussion Group (The Green Dragon Inn)

Posted on 02/15/2002 7:01:31 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: HairOfTheDog
I'm reading Lord of the Rings right now. I'm on chapter 3. I would like to keep up with this thread. I'll have to go back and read what was said. I'm going to bed now. Yaaaaawn....
261 posted on 02/16/2002 6:10:35 PM PST by SpookBrat
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To: SpookBrat
Talk to you in the morning when you have had a chance to catch up!
262 posted on 02/16/2002 6:16:44 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: BornOnTheFourth
Glad to hear someone will still be up!
263 posted on 02/16/2002 6:22:59 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: SpookBrat
I'm going to bed now. Yaaaaawn....

Shall we sing you an Elven song?

264 posted on 02/16/2002 6:31:13 PM PST by Carolina
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To: HairOfTheDog
I think SpookBrat has the right idea. Elei bain an phain (pleasant dreams to all).
265 posted on 02/16/2002 6:36:18 PM PST by Romestamo
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To: HairOfTheDog
Oh, yes...I'll be here!!!!! No pints for me, just keep the diet pepsi flowing!
266 posted on 02/16/2002 6:46:47 PM PST by BornOnTheFourth
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To: BornOnTheFourth; HairOfTheDog
No pints for me, I'll be breaking out a bottle of the old winyard...too bad I don't have anything from 1296....
267 posted on 02/16/2002 6:57:52 PM PST by Penny1
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To: Carolina
Heh, heh, heh. And when you get the house blessed will your blessing be: "O Elbereth! O Gilthoniel!"

Only if the Nazgul happen to be coming to call!

268 posted on 02/16/2002 9:08:16 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Penny1;BornOnTheFourth
I am back from the venture into town, and true to the rumors, there were a few strange persons and creatures prowling about the borders.... Did you find that you had some of the old Winyards left Penny? That sounds good... I could cook you some eggs if you like!...
269 posted on 02/16/2002 9:12:54 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
I did indeed, and eggs sound lovely...can I have "tomatoes and nice crispy bacon" too? ;)

I was beginning to wonder where everyone had gotten to...

Have you looked at the script that I posted the link to a while back? FOTR Script. I was just browsing through it looking up things that I'd not been able to quite "catch" in the dialogue, and stumbled across something I didn't know about. When the ring whispers in response to Frodo saying "Sauron was destroyed!" it whispers "Isildur." I thought that was a pretty cool detail....

(That was my on-topic part of my post...now for the off-topic--movie related--stuff...):

When the ring is calling Aragorn's name it calls him Aragorn Elessar.

Have you noticed the slowed-down speech in Lothlórien yet?

270 posted on 02/16/2002 9:21:24 PM PST by Penny1
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To: Penny1
No - I didn't notice what the ring said-except that it was whispering... but then I have always assumed it was muttering things I wouldn't understand so I didn't try, if you follow me....

I will meet you over in the hobbit hole for the rest... hehehe

271 posted on 02/16/2002 9:29:18 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Greetings fellow travelers!

Traveling once again through Middle Earth, my eyes found the welcome sign of the Green Dragon Inn.

A bit odd to see so many travelers on the roads...but then again ....one does hear strange rumors.

A round of the inn's best on me, and add me to this "ping list" if you please.

Selara

272 posted on 02/16/2002 9:29:34 PM PST by Selara
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To: East Bay Patriot; Selara
Yes it is going to be a long year... and the year after that even longer.... Welcome Selara, Welcome EBP... I hope you can join us for this reading... it has been fun so far. And by all means have a pint!
274 posted on 02/16/2002 9:36:06 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Seen it three times. Without doubt, the finest movie of the year. As a movie buff, Hollywood has broken my heart a lot lately, this (and "Moulin Rouge") have begun to repair the damage that started with "Godzilla"(98).

May I be added to this fellowship too, please?

275 posted on 02/16/2002 9:37:16 PM PST by Long Cut
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To: Long Cut
Certainly.... We are on Chapter 2 and moving quickly...
276 posted on 02/16/2002 9:40:22 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: East Bay Patriot
I know. Somehow, though, I think the fix is in. LOTR will probably take some technical awards, MAYBE best director 'cause no one can argue that PJ had as easy a time as most directors, but I don't see it getting Best Picture. Call me cynical, but I think "ALI" will get it.
278 posted on 02/16/2002 10:13:35 PM PST by Long Cut
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To: HairOfTheDog
Thanks, HOTDog, for adding my name to the Fellowship of the Ping; I'll do my best not to slow the group down on the long journey ahead.

Prompted by the popularity of the LOTR movie in the US (I'm in Japan), I just recently picked up the series for the first time in twenty years, and I'm slightly past the halfway point of The Two Towers now. The movie hasn't arrived here yet; it's scheduled to open in theaters on 2 March, though there will be a late night/early morning preview showing this coming Saturday. Since the movie will not end until after train and subway service stop, it'll be an all-night affair...I guess we'll know then who the real Tolkien fans are.

Despite Tolkien's fame in the English-speaking world, none of my Japanese friends had even heard of LOTR prior to seeing the TV ads for the movie, though the Lord of the Rings series, The Hobbit, and The Silmarillion have been available in Japanese for some years now, and such texts as The Atlas of Middle Earth can be found alongside them in bookstores. Most bookstores of any decent size have the entire LOTR series displayed prominently (right next to the Harry Potter books), and Tolkien is likely to gain a considerable number of new fans on this side of the Pacific once the movie arrives.

I actually went out and bought the Japanese-language versions of The Hobbit and the first two volumes of the paperback LOTR today -- hey, if you think three volumes of Tolkien in English is daunting, try nine volumes (albeit not very thick ones) in translation! -- and, if this discussion group doesn't tear through chapters like Ents through stone, I might try to keep up. For those most unquenchably curious hobbits out there, the first volume of LOTR is entitled Tabi no Nakama in Japanese, which translates as "Traveling Companions."

Has anyone else out there read LOTR in translation? I think it might be interesting to discuss some of the differences between the original English version and translated versions -- including variations in literary style, approaches taken to convey dialects, the care taken to maintain the rhyme and rhythm of the poetry/songs, etc. Having skimmed through the Japanese books I bought today, it struck me just how much of Tolkien's appeal lies in his use of language and not simply in the ripping good yarns he tells.

279 posted on 02/17/2002 1:12:56 AM PST by The_Expatriate
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To: HairOfTheDog
Ping me, Please
280 posted on 02/17/2002 1:46:14 AM PST by LinnieBeth
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