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To: MarkWar
As I recall the foundation trilogy several conections come to mind. The notion of interplanetary government, organized thought adjusters , the Aberant from Gaia (the mule) as lucifer, or hitler. No actually it just occured to me that Asimov never spoke of having read the Urantia. It just seemed like common knowlege.

Jerry Garcia, and Gene Rodenbury were named on strange universe when the Urantia was displayed. They also stated there that there is a copy of the text in the white house library. No comment from the white house though.

The rest of my rhetoric was conjured out of dreams, a fanciful imagination, low self esteem, and a desire to prove something. I can't prove it.

44 posted on 02/16/2002 6:14:00 AM PST by ramdalesh
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To: ramdalesh
>The rest of my rhetoric was conjured out of dreams, a fanciful imagination, low self esteem, and a desire to prove something. I can't prove it.

[laughs] Well said!

And fair, too. Fair, hell, it pretty much describes 99% of my own postings....

And, on the topic of unproveable things, an old time writer from the "golden age" of SF who knew Asimov and everyone else -- a guy named C. M. Kornbluth -- once wrote an obscure short story which featured a poor, unappreciated skillful writer (presumably patterned on himself) getting approached by two "famous" but un-named science fiction writers -- one was very short and gritty and energetic, the other was very fat and polite and erudite -- and the two famous writers describe how fame can be had for writers if they just sell out and toady to various strange political and social activist groups. The story was humorous and tongue-in-cheek, but I've always wondered if there was an element of truth to the tale.

I've always assumed the short gritty guy was supposed to be Harlan Ellison and the fat erudite guy was supposed to be Asimov. The two were, believe it or not, friends...

As respected as Asimov was/is, it wouldn't surprise me if there was a dark side to him. (But I've never read him admit to one, or heard anybody on record actually describe one...)

Mark W.

48 posted on 02/16/2002 6:39:17 AM PST by MarkWar
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