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Black Colleges Request More Funds
Newsday ^ | 2/13/02 | Greg Toppo

Posted on 02/13/2002 12:04:43 PM PST by areafiftyone

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:59 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Pointing to students' debt loads, presidents of predominantly black colleges asked Congress for more money for financial aid.

Addressing a joint hearing of two House education committees Wednesday, several college officials said their students need more government help as costs rise higher than they can afford.

Shirley Lewis, president of Paine College in Augusta, Ga., said nearly every Paine student either is working or has taken out loans. Many students end up graduating about $20,000 in debt, she said.


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1 posted on 02/13/2002 12:04:44 PM PST by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone
That is a bit higher than the average debt for all college graduates, which in 1999 was about $15,375 for graduates of public colleges and $17,250 for those at private colleges, according to the American Council on Education.

The bill for my alma mater (private, Christian college) is about $20K per year now.

2 posted on 02/13/2002 12:08:31 PM PST by Ward Smythe
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To: areafiftyone
He also said black colleges need an additional $20 million to give laptop computers to low-income freshmen who receive the grant.

That's funny ... my step-son is going to college, pursuing a business degree and working 30+ hours per week. He's making the Dean's list ... and he can't afford a USED laptop. Now, the minorities are demanding that they get laptops at taxpayer expense? Gosh, maybe I'm blind, but where in the counstitution does it garrantee taxpayer paid personal computers, and free education for minorities? If you want to be treated as an equal, work as an equal.

3 posted on 02/13/2002 12:13:56 PM PST by Hodar
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To: areafiftyone
"Black people are getting poorer, not richer in the country, and so we need a strong financial aid program," said Humphries, who now heads the National Association for Equal Opportunity in Higher Education."

Another liberal lie. Maybe poor black people are getting poorer, but there is certainly a large middle-class black population that the media, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton prefer to keep hidden.

4 posted on 02/13/2002 12:19:28 PM PST by diefree
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To: areafiftyone
If they really want to be mainstreamed and accepted as equal Americans without prejudice, they should shut the hell up and work and save like everybody else in this country.

As long as they mope for special treatment, special treatment - the assumption they're stupid and lazy - is just what they'll get.

6 posted on 02/13/2002 12:26:37 PM PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: areafiftyone
In this land of racial equality, what does it mean for a college to be a "black college"?
7 posted on 02/13/2002 12:27:47 PM PST by mad puppy
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To: areafiftyone
... Pointing to students' debt loads, presidents of predominantly black colleges asked Congress for more money for financial aid ...
I like subsidized student loans better than I like the notion of reparations.
8 posted on 02/13/2002 12:29:32 PM PST by Asclepius
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To: Asclepius
I like subsidized student loans better than I like the notion of reparations.

Take the present value of the net transfer of wealth, including free public education, housing, medical care, and job protection, into America's black populace over the past 4 years, and I assure you it is some large multiple of any reparations demand.

And no, if you subsidize them more now, it won't be backed out of the reparations demand later.

9 posted on 02/13/2002 12:34:11 PM PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: NativeNewYorker
A fund is a terrible thing to waste.
10 posted on 02/13/2002 12:38:35 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: areafiftyone
They can pound sand. Chances are that they're taking out the maximum they're allowed for their loans instead of what they actually need to pay for school.

Just because you get approved for $10,000 a semester when you may only need $6,000 doesn't mean you take out the max and then whine about it later when you've dug yourself a hole.

11 posted on 02/13/2002 12:40:46 PM PST by Bikers4Bush
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To: areafiftyone
Would it be too much to ask that these colleges consider lowering their tuition? Or are their concerns more about the institutional profits rather than any real concern for their students?
13 posted on 02/13/2002 12:50:27 PM PST by joebuck
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To: mad puppy;mafree
In this land of racial equality, what does it mean for a college to be a "black college"?

I asked the same type of question months ago on a long-forgotten thread. mafree gave me some gobbledygook answer that left me speechless. Maybe she'll be around to 'splain it to ya. Good luck.

14 posted on 02/13/2002 12:51:54 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: mad puppy
In this land of racial equality, what does it mean for a college to be a "black college"?

Some races are more equal than others?

15 posted on 02/13/2002 12:56:27 PM PST by Dakmar
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To: leadpenny, mad puppy
In this land of racial equality, what does it mean for a college to be a "black college"?

I asked the same type of question months ago on a long-forgotten thread. mafree gave me some gobbledygook answer that left me speechless. Maybe she'll be around to 'splain it to ya. Good luck.

What answer did I give you? Anyway, a black college is one that was started to specifically cater to a black population. At the time, most blacks were not admitted to white colleges and/or could not afford them, as financial aid was not there for much of anyone at the time.

These colleges mostly continue to serve a predominantly black population, though none are or ever have been closed to other races. Some black students, faculty and staff feel more comfortable at black colleges, which may tend to be more reflective of black culture.

That, coupled with the fact that they are often more affordable, ensure that there will always be a population who wants to attend black colleges.

Easy enough for 'ya leadpenny?

16 posted on 02/13/2002 1:05:10 PM PST by mafree
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To: areafiftyone
..."Colleges cannot survive if students do not have adequate resources to attend them, " said Rep. Tim Roemer, D-Ind.

Earth calling Rep. Timmy-Boy. You're not exactly stranding the students with papyrus and an abacus. Of course "adequate resources" in this case is equated with the luxury of being able to pay professors $200,000 a year and provide brand new laptops to their students.

But anyway, why would we want to lend more tax money to U.S. colleges? They are nothing but Marxist indoctrination hot-houses for the pods, er, I mean students.

17 posted on 02/13/2002 1:12:20 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: mafree
"Black colleges...may tend to be more reflective of black culture."

By this do mean teaching and stressing Afro-centric perspectives, including revisionist history, philosophy and advocacy of separatism?

18 posted on 02/13/2002 1:18:17 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: areafiftyone
This is BS, BS, and more BS.

My wife and I both worked our way(s) through college when the wage for students was fifty cents/hour. At one time I held four jobs simultaneously, one of them for meals only (no money). We graduated debt-free.

My son-in-law worked every other semester to make money for his education. He graduated debt-free.

PLEASE don't try to make me feel bad about how tough it is to pay your way through college. Those of us who have been there know all about it. The point is: if you want an education, you can get it without legally picking the pocket of the American taxpayer.

19 posted on 02/13/2002 1:25:07 PM PST by BLASTER 14
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To: mafree
Some black students, faculty and staff feel more comfortable at black colleges, which may tend to be more reflective of black culture.

Thanks mafree. Tho my question was somewhat tongue-in-check, I appreciate the info. I think those 'balck colleges' have done a very good job under very difficult circumstances. My point is that in todays world, in theory, blacks now only have the same difficulties as everyone else as far as getting into and through college goes.

My other concern is that if I substitute the word 'white' for 'black' in your statement above, its called racist. That is not equality. I'm curious what you think of this, without knowing your race, nor you knowing mine.

20 posted on 02/13/2002 1:29:31 PM PST by mad puppy
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